Hakeem Nicks or Percy Harvin?

[sash1]

Simple question, if we go after a WR in the draft with our first pick,who would you rather have Hakeem Nicks or Percy Harvin? AND do you think we even draft a receiver with our #! pick?

[CTJetFan92]

Nicks, Harvin can't play a whole college season let alone a season in the NFL. Give me the tough player who's willing to take a hit and get back up

Edit: definitely not worth a first round pick though. WR is not our most pressing need

[Monsterxman]

Nicks is going to be a stud in the NFL.

[Paradis]

Fox's recent mock draft is the first time i've even seen Nicks in the first round. I don't see us going WR with #1, unless Maclin was still there. I'd rather have Brit or Heyward-bey in the second round. Actually if we banking on Clowner and Stuckey turning up the heat, i;d sooner just have Patrick Turner in the fourth or fifth. thats what we really need right now.

[Heineken08]

Harvin would be the perfect slot reciever. He has a ton of speed and has great hands. Nicks has size which the Jets need and has great hands. I'd be happy with either but if chose it would be Nicks.

[sect313]

Nicks is going to be a stud in the NFL.

can he be compared to boldin?

[tavarua6285]

kenny britt, hometown boy phenom

[Untouchable]

Harvin, hands down.

He's arguably the most explosive offensive player in the draft and is a threat to take it the distance everytime he touches the ball. Not to mention he's actually worthy of the 17th pick.

Nicks is basically a Cotchery clone. A strong possession receiver who runs good routes and has great hands. More of a late 1st/early 2nd round selection.

[hendu24]

Nicks is going to be a stud in the NFL.

Before the Meineke Car Care Bowl, this guy wasn't even on the NFL's map. Kills me how one game turns a guy into a NFL stud.

[Chica me Tipo]

Before the Meineke Car Care Bowl, this guy wasn't even on the NFL's map. Kills me how one game turns a guy into a NFL stud.

The one game put him on FANS maps. Nicks was known well before that.

I'd pick Nicks. No injury history, NFL ready body, powerful after the catch, arguably the strongest hands in the class, great size, good character guy, good athlete, excellent route runner...

He reminds me of Anquan Boldin. He's a very similar WR to Cotchery, and 2 > 1.

I'm still undecided on Nicks vs. Britt.

[chrisc8585]

^ That may be true for you, but if that's true for NFL scouts, then they sure as hell haven't been doing their job.


In terms of the question, Harvin is definitely more explosive, you can get him the ball in different ways, etc. Nicks has better hands, runs better routes, and is a more technically sound WR. Both should be good in the League, but it depends on what you want when comparing the two.

[Green Jets & Ham]

IMO there are only three WR's In this class who carry a 1st Round Grade

1. Michael Crabtree
2. Jeremy Maclin
3. Percy Harvin

Crabtree will be long gone at 17, but Maclin and Harvin are possible

Of the two I would prefer the more polished Maclin, but there's something very exciting about Harvin who is the most explosive player in this years draft

[Chica me Tipo]

^ That may be true for you, but if that's true for NFL scouts, then they sure as hell haven't been doing their job.


In terms of the question, Harvin is definitely more explosive, you can get him the ball in different ways, etc. Nicks has better hands, runs better routes, and is a more technically sound WR. Both should be good in the League, but it depends on what you want when comparing the two.

Exactly. Personally, I think Nicks would thrive in Schotty's offense...and him and Cotchery together would give us two very sure handed WR's who can get YAC.

[sash1]

You guys are wrong, Nicks was killing it the entire season. He was getting notoriaty and praise long before the bowl game

[bitonti]

IMO there are only three WR's In this class who carry a 1st Round Grade

1. Michael Crabtree
2. Jeremy Maclin
3. Percy Harvin



i know it's not your list but the draft advisory committee gave Kenny Britt a first round grade before he came out of school. that was not the case with DHB, Nicks etc.

[Green Jets & Ham]

i know it's not your list but the draft advisory committee gave Kenny Britt a first round grade before he came out of school. that was not the case with DHB, Nicks etc.Well its funny you should say that, Bit, because I actually listed Kenny Britt at #4, ahead of DHB & Hicks in my recent pre combines positional rankings, without knowing about the advisory committee

http://www.jetsinsider.com/blogs/glenn_bernardi/?p=606

I also have DHB (#5) ahead of Hicks (#6), but that's still fluid and subject to change

[VincenzoTestaverde]

Simple question, if we go after a WR in the draft with our first pick,who would you rather have Hakeem Nicks or Percy Harvin? AND do you think we even draft a receiver with our #! pick?

I hate drafting wr's in round 1. They are so hit or miss. Would rather wait until round 2 and get Kenny Britt who I think may be as good if not better than both of them.

[Chase the Eagles Fan]

I'm not a big fan of Gator receivers...but Harvin is a unique case his ability to do so many things on the field and the fact that he is so explosive with the ball in his hands makes him a great prospect..

If your in need of a starting wide receiver..you really can't rely on harvin to ever be that guy for you...but if your interested in a wild card kind of player that can line up virtually anywhere on the field and a explosive return specialist than your going to get your money's worth out of Harvin..if your interested in a drafting a potential #1 or #2 guy...Nicks is probably your guy...

a team that has absolutely no interest in upgrading the kick or punt returner in the draft may not value Harvin as high as a purer wide receiver prospect like Nicks...

[David Harris]

Harvin by a good amount IMO. He's Leon but at WR.

You want the complete package in a 1st round WR and I don't know if he's that. His skill set is non-traditional which makes me shy away from him but he's so explosive and such a unique weapon that he may be worth it. Him and Keller running across the middle would create havoc.

[BLEEDgreenN'white]

Before the Meineke Car Care Bowl, this guy wasn't even on the NFL's map. Kills me how one game turns a guy into a NFL stud.

Specifically that one catch behind the back....

[Martin&theJets]

Nicks, hes more complete WR than Harvin who is a WR/RB. Idk if we go WR in the 1st but i think it will be between WR and CB but if we let barton go and dont get an ILB in the FA then it will be between ILB and CB.

[thegrand11]

I'd take Nicks over Harvin.

Nicks is a much more complete WR than Harvin. Harvin is solt reciever, while Nicks is more polished and has #1 potential. Plus Nicks has amazing hands, something that will help a young QB.

[mavericknyc1980]

Even though I strongly dislike Nicks( HE commited to ND all the way then the last second switched to NC), I like Nicks better in then Havin. The way I would look at is DHB, Britt, Nicks then Havin.

[chrisc8585]

^ You're thinking of Greg Little that left ND on signing day to go to UNC. Nicks committed to UNC when he wasn't very highly regarded playing behind Mohammed Massaqoui at Charlotte Independence. Nicks then blew up his senior year and ended as a 4 star by the major recruiting services IIRC.

[kdelgado]

Nicks looks a lot like Cotchery out there meanwhile Harvin looks like to much of wildcard. Harvin is oft injured and he is also not a big wide-receiver target but I'd pick him since he might turn out like Steve Smith or a young Coles.

[hendu24]

Specifically that one catch behind the back....

Everybody now says "Oh he's been on the radar for awhile or he's been a stud for x amount of time.BS, I watch college football like it's a religion. I don't work saturday's and get the Game Plan so I watch a ton of football. NOBODY mentioned this guy's name until after that Bowl Game.

[mrorange43]

DHB will be the best WR in the draft save Crabtree. Book it.

[King Koopa]

Everybody now says "Oh he's been on the radar for awhile or he's been a stud for x amount of time.BS, I watch college football like it's a religion. I don't work saturday's and get the Game Plan so I watch a ton of football. NOBODY mentioned this guy's name until after that Bowl Game.

Doesn't mean hes not a badass......I saw more than half of UNC games last year, and I definitely knew about Nicks right away.....the announcers would always say something too about how much they love him, etc.....

I guarantee he will be a good player in the NFL barring injuries.....he's basically Cotchery with more natural strength and explosion....Boldin would be accurate as well

I like Harvin a lot too, but I would take Nicks in a heartbeat......he's not the most flashiest, but a smart team will get a steal if he doesn't go top 20

[I against I]

DHB will be the best WR in the draft save Crabtree. Book it.

rotoworld has a blurb saying he's running in the 4.2s :eek:

[hendu24]

Doesn't mean hes not a badass......I saw more than half of UNC games last year, and I definitely knew about Nicks right away.....the announcers would always say something too about how much they love him, etc.....

I guarantee he will be a good player in the NFL barring injuries.....he's basically Cotchery with more natural strength and explosion....Boldin would be accurate as well

I like Harvin a lot too, but I would take Nicks in a heartbeat......he's not the most flashiest, but a smart team will get a steal if he doesn't go top 20


I'm not sold on the fact that he can seperate from NFL db's.

[hendu24]

rotoworld has a blurb saying he's running in the 4.2s :eek:

Don't be suprised if Harvin, Murphy and DHB run in the 4.2's.

[Chica me Tipo]

I'm not sold on the fact that he can seperate from NFL db's.

Based on what? Potential 40 times?

Nicks hasn't had any trouble getting separation for a long time. He's a smart, polished, very physically gifted WR.

Harvin's faster/more explosive. That's like his biggest advantage, and it's not exactly like Nicks isn't capable of scoring everytime he has the ball in his hands.

Nicks also has the huge advantage of a clean bill of health his whole football playing career. Speed guys with early career leg and ankle issues have to raise some kind of red flag to the people here who think Harvin is worth 17 but Nicks isn't.

[hendu24]

Based on what? Potential 40 times?

Nicks hasn't had any trouble getting separation for a long time. He's a smart, polished, very physically gifted WR.

Harvin's faster/more explosive. That's like his biggest advantage, and it's not exactly like Nicks isn't capable of scoring everytime he has the ball in his hands.

Nicks also has the huge advantage of a clean bill of health his whole football playing career. Speed guys with early career leg and ankle issues have to raise some kind of red flag to the people here who think Harvin is worth 17 but Nicks isn't.

You need to do some research Nicks missed time in 2007 with a ankle injury.

from Walter football..

Hakeem Nicks' Scouting Report
By Matt McGuire


Strengths: Nice size and strength to beat press man coverage ... Refined route runner exploding out of his cuts ... Outstanding, soft hands ... High ability to focus when ball is in the air ... Knows how to shield corners ... Catches the ball away from his body ... Competitor and is clutch ... Solid downfield blocker ... Red zone threat ... Shows athleticism on jump balls ... Will go over the middle ... Nice instincts; shows intelligence to come back to the quarterback.

Weaknesses: Not elusive in the open field and does not maximize YAC ... Does not generate separation with speed ... Not a deep threat ... Not much upside.

Summary: Nicks reminds me a lot of Greg Jennings coming out of college, and we see what he has become in the league. Nicks is nothing more than a No. 2 receiver, but he shows enough qualities to where I would not consider his skill set to be particularly risky. Nicks is not going to be a stat demon in the NFL, but he can find a role and excel in the right system.

Player Comparison: Jerricho Cotchery. Both players have pretty well-rounded games with similar physical builds and limited upside.

[Chica me Tipo]

The guy missed one game in 2006 due to an ankle sprain.

Heres some Nicks stuff you don't seem to know:

First-team All-ACC selection at wide receiver is the first Tar Heel since Julius Peppers in 2001 to declare for the NFL Draft after his junior season • Needed just three seasons to set 14 school records at Carolina, including career receptions (181), career receiving yards (2,580) and career touchdowns (21) • Totaled 68 catches for school records of 1,222 yards and 12 touchdowns this season.

Calling him and Cotchery's upside limited is laughable...I'd take WR's like those two all day every day for my football team.

[hendu24]

The guy missed one game in 2006 due to an ankle sprain.

Heres some Nicks stuff you don't seem to know:

First-team All-ACC selection at wide receiver is the first Tar Heel since Julius Peppers in 2001 to declare for the NFL Draft after his junior season • Needed just three seasons to set 14 school records at Carolina, including career receptions (181), career receiving yards (2,580) and career touchdowns (21) • Totaled 68 catches for school records of 1,222 yards and 12 touchdowns this season.

Calling him and Cotchery's upside limited is laughable...I'd take WR's like those two all day every day for my football team.


Wow thats sayin a lot with the storied tradition of wr's that have came out of UNC.

[Chica me Tipo]

Wow thats sayin a lot with the storied tradition of wr's that have came out of UNC.

As opposed to the Florida WRs that have taken the league by storm?

...And Harvin's not even a real WR yet.

[hendu24]

As opposed to the Florida WRs that have taken the league by storm?

...And Harvin's not even a real WR yet.

thought you might like this..
http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/021909aaa.html

[Chica me Tipo]

Oh yea...at the WR skills competition he performed in I thought he looked very athletic (Nicks). He ran those drills as well as the other guys that were that...though the only other one I really remember was Barden...who didn't look anywhere near as smooth as Nicks.

[BlackBear83]

I think Nicks would be an excellent 2nd round pick. I'm not much for drafting QBs or WRs in the first round because those have been proven to be an iffy bet.

That said, whoever gets Nicks is going to get their money's worth. Many here have compared him to Cotchery, but he reminds me more of Hines Ward - good hands and tough. He is most impressive after the catch, making good yardage and running over guys. He can deliver a hit as well as take one.

Harvin's a one-man highlight reel - a dazzler, for sure. But for durability and productivity, give me Nicks.

[NYDreamer]

can he be compared to boldin?

Mel Kiper is actually comparing him to Michael Irvin! I will take that in a heart beat.

[mavericknyc1980]

^ You're thinking of Greg Little that left ND on signing day to go to UNC. Nicks committed to UNC when he wasn't very highly regarded playing behind Mohammed Massaqoui at Charlotte Independence. Nicks then blew up his senior year and ended as a 4 star by the major recruiting services IIRC.




Thats right man I was having a HUGE OFF DAY YESTERDAY.

[Bugg Superstar]

Nicks all the way!

[Wallace Wright]

Nicks, I want nothing to do with Harvin.

It wouldn't surprise me if we went with a Defense player (Vontae, Moore, Cushing, A. Smith, Sintim) and traded up into the early 2nd to grab Hicks.

The Jets have traded up to get who they want the last few years, and if Nicks or Britt is there in the early-mid 2nd, we should go up and get one.

[bitonti]

it sounds ludicrous but there could be 5 or 6 WR in round 1 when it's all said and done. If the Jets took one at 17 it wouldn't be a huge surprise, Bradway did it before at 16 with S Moss. Harvin, DHB, maybe even Britt are all comparable prospects in terms of production and speed. Nicks only did it for a year I don't know the Jets can make that move, some other team will and it probably works out ok.

[shodan9999]

Simple question, if we go after a WR in the draft with our first pick,who would you rather have Hakeem Nicks or Percy Harvin? AND do you think we even draft a receiver with our #! pick?

Both players should have a good NFL career...but of those two I lean toward Harvin...Not saying Nicks can not...but I believe Harvin can do more things for us..But I would hope we would use him as a WR and not play games with him like Brad Smith....

[shodan9999]

it sounds ludicrous but there could be 5 or 6 WR in round 1 when it's all said and done. If the Jets took one at 17 it wouldn't be a huge surprise, Bradway did it before at 16 with S Moss. Harvin, DHB, maybe even Britt are all comparable prospects in terms of production and speed. Nicks only did it for a year I don't know the Jets can make that move, some other team will and it probably works out ok.

I like Britt....post corner in the end zone= TD ! He is a nice target !

[NYRAGE]

Britt 4.48

Harvin ran a 4.37

Maclin 4.40

Howard Bey 4.25

wow

[ryan10]

can he be compared to boldin?

mayock just send nicks=boldin

[One Eye]

Nicks will be one of the best WRs from this draft in mho.