Blair Thomas in draft bust tourney

[garce911]

Blair was voted by fans as the team's biggest worst first-round pick ever and is now in a tourney of the biggest busts. He's seeded fourth and is going up against Cedric Jones from the Giants in the first round. Vote him up!!

http://www.opensports.com/community/user/blog_entry/6/930284df-8d93-4909-85b5-3bb046808e7c

[Savage69]

This is so unfair. Bruce Coslet should be more of the "bust" than Blair Thomas. Blair Thomas was on the road to being an excellent RB. He had a few 100 yard games and then on MNF he fumbled and Bruce Coslet criticized him to no end. Began to rotate the B+RBs and Thomas was never the same. Say what you want but Blair Thomas was a nice kid that got "rail-roaded" by his AWFUL head coach. You want a REAL bust, try the numerous other choices on the JET lst like: Johnny Mitchell who was a dog and never lived up to his abilitly. How about having the number 1 pick overall and trading it for James Farrior and Scott Frost? What about Mike Haight, Dave Caddigan, Johnny Lam Jones, the list can go on forever.

Blair THomas was not as successful as JETS fans wanted but there were other variables that affect his career like his HC Bruce Coslet..........

+1 Cop...No way was BT the biggest Jet bust..

[copernicus]

Blair was voted by fans as the team's biggest worst first-round pick ever and is now in a tourney of the biggest busts. He's seeded fourth and is going up against Cedric Jones from the Giants in the first round. Vote him up!!

http://www.opensports.com/community/user/blog_entry/6/930284df-8d93-4909-85b5-3bb046808e7c

This is so unfair. Bruce Coslet should be more of the "bust" than Blair Thomas. Blair Thomas was on the road to being an excellent RB. He had a few 100 yard games and then on MNF he fumbled and Bruce Coslet criticized him to no end. Began to rotate the B+RBs and Thomas was never the same. Say what you want but Blair Thomas was a nice kid that got "rail-roaded" by his AWFUL head coach. You want a REAL bust, try the numerous other choices on the JET lst like: Johnny Mitchell who was a dog and never lived up to his abilitly. How about having the number 1 pick overall and trading it for James Farrior and Scott Frost? What about Mike Haight, Dave Caddigan, Johnny Lam Jones, the list can go on forever.

Blair THomas was not as successful as JETS fans wanted but there were other variables that affect his career like his HC Bruce Coslet..........

[Brewman13]

Ok WTFs up. this is the second thread I've read where a person was quoted before his post showed up:huh:

[Savage69]

Thanks Savage. All the Jet-bashers love to put Blair Thomas at the top of the list. The reality is that the JETS were so bad from top to bottom during those years and there HC was as bad as Kotite except that he was just a miserable person as well. I had the opportunity to meet Blair Thomas and he was kind and considerate. He signed autographs and was personalbe. He was on the right track to being a very good RB and Bruce Coslet crushed his confidence early in his career. The kid was never the same........

He avg 5 ypc on 123 carries and 620 tds as a rookie..I agree Coslet killed him..:yes:

[copernicus]

+1 Cop...No way was BT the biggest Jet bust..

Thanks Savage. All the Jet-bashers love to put Blair Thomas at the top of the list. The reality is that the JETS were so bad from top to bottom during those years and there HC was as bad as Kotite except that he was just a miserable person as well. I had the opportunity to meet Blair Thomas and he was kind and considerate. He signed autographs and was personalbe. He was on the right track to being a very good RB and Bruce Coslet crushed his confidence early in his career. The kid was never the same........

[copernicus]

Ok WTFs up. this is the second thread I've read where a person was quoted before his post showed up:huh:

It's freakin me out too.........................:huh:

[RazorJet]

+1 Cop...No way was BT the biggest Jet bust..

Who was it that we passed up for Johnny Lam Jones? Jerry Rice?

[copernicus]

He avg 5 ypc on 123 carries and 620 tds as a rookie..I agree Coslet killed him..:yes:

Nice Savage..................I would also add that at the time the JETS OLINE was not very good. If you can remember Ken O'Brien would often be seen running for his life............

[RazorJet]

Who was it that we passed up for Johnny Lam Jones? Jerry Rice?

It just attached my quote to someone elses blog other than the one I referenced.
I put this one on my own just to see if it would work right

[jetswin]

Ok WTFs up. this is the second thread I've read where a person was quoted before his post showed up:huh:

It's freakin me out too.........................:huh:
JI mind meld


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[RazorJet]

Nice Savage..................I would also add that at the time the JETS OLINE was not very good. If you can remember Ken O'Brien would often be seen running for his life............

I'll never understand passing up Dan Marino for Ken Obrien but if we would have ever blocked for the poor guy, we'd consider him one of our best ever.

[Jet Nut]

Who was it that we passed up for Johnny Lam Jones? Jerry Rice?

NO

[Jet Nut]

I dont blame the JETS for passing on Marino. It was just "one of those things". Marino was busted as a pot smoker his senior year and was not the top QB before the arrest. Ken O'Brien was a very good QB and if he had a decent line infront of him might have brought us to a SB appearnce.

The line about Marino was that he would snort the 50 yard line if you let him.

He had a great junior season and dropped in his senior year.

That's why everyone passed on him, not only the Jets. No one seems to remember that KC took Todd Blackledge at #7 and the Pats took Tony Eason at #25 that year over Marino.

Miami was coming off a SB appearance and could afford to take a chance on him, not hard to understand what happened with that draft.

[hendu24]

In 5 years they will redo this and Gholston and the other B. Thomas will be up there..

[copernicus]

I'll never understand passing up Dan Marino for Ken Obrien but if we would have ever blocked for the poor guy, we'd consider him one of our best ever.

I dont blame the JETS for passing on Marino. It was just "one of those things". Marino was busted as a pot smoker his senior year and was not the top QB before the arrest. Ken O'Brien was a very good QB and if he had a decent line infront of him might have brought us to a SB appearnce.

[Jet Nut]

Point well taken...............Again, the Jets should not be blamed for the selection of Ken O'Brien over Dan Marino

I added this: everyone passed on him, not only the Jets. No one seems to remember that KC took Todd Blackledge at #7 and the Pats took Tony Eason at #25 that year over Marino.

O'Brien was better than Blackledge and Eason. Pats and KC could have taken Marino or O'Brien.

[RazorJet]

I dont blame the JETS for passing on Marino. It was just "one of those things". Marino was busted as a pot smoker his senior year and was not the top QB before the arrest. Ken O'Brien was a very good QB and if he had a decent line infront of him might have brought us to a SB appearnce.

Agreed. We were 10-1 in 85' but injuries caused us to lose 4 out of 5 games going into the playoffs. Then the famous Gastineau roughing the passer on 4th down penalty kept us from meeting Denver in the championship.
However, I didn't remember that Dan the man was a toker. Of course I was 11 or 12 when they were drafted .

[copernicus]

The line about Marino was that he would snort the 50 yard line if you let him.

He had a great junior season and dropped in his senior year.

That's why everyone passed on him, not only the Jets.

Miami was coming off a SB appearance and could afford to take a chance on him, not hard to understand what happened with that draft.

Point well taken...............Again, the Jets should not be blamed for the selection of Ken O'Brien over Dan Marino

[RazorJet]

NO

Just No. No answer. Please, if you know who it was do tell.

[bepezz]

Just No. No answer. Please, if you know who it was do tell.


The year Rice was drafted, the Jets, instead,opted for Al Toon. Lam Jones was several years earlier.

[RazorJet]

It was Art Monk that we overlooked for JL Jones.
Then again in 85' we overlooked Jerry Rice for Al Toon. Now, Toon did okay but just compare the numbers. No comparison.

[Savage69]

I dont blame the JETS for passing on Marino. It was just "one of those things". Marino was busted as a pot smoker his senior year and was not the top QB before the arrest. Ken O'Brien was a very good QB and if he had a decent line infront of him might have brought us to a SB appearnce.

I do blame them..:steamin: Marino had better stats the year before the draft but that group graduated or went into the Draft..He didn't have as good a group around him his last year..When we drafted Namath he had a rep as a big party guy but Werblin didn't care because Namath was also a hell of a football player..I wanted Marino and the group I was with said;WTF when OB was picked..I still say Marino on the Jets throwing to Walker,Toon and Shuler with Freeman/Hector running plus the Jet D would have got us a couple of bowls..:yes:

[Jetsound]

Ron Dayne was a bigger bust than Cedric Jones. The Giants could have takes Shawn Alexander.

I saw an NFL.com list of the best first round selections by choice ever. The Jets blew it big time on 2 of them taking the same position only higher.

QB Marino - took O'Brien (although he was good and I liked him)
RB Emmett Smith - took Blair Thomas

Ed Reed - took Bryan Thomas.
Sapp - took Brady
Keyshawn & Alex Van Dyke - didn't Terrell Owens and Marvin Harrison come out of that draft in the later rounds.

POOR HISTORY

[Jet Nut]

Just No. No answer. Please, if you know who it was do tell.

Lam Jones was drafted in 1980.

Rice in 1985.

The Jets took Toon over Rice.

Not hard to find.

[djaparz]

Kyle Brady
Anthony Becht
Browning Nagle

[RazorJet]

The year Rice was drafted, the Jets, instead,opted for Al Toon. Lam Jones was several years earlier.

Thanks. I was googling it when you posted. Appreciate it though.

[Savage69]

Keyshawn & Alex Van Dyke - didn't Terrell Owens and Marvin Harrison come out of that draft in the later rounds.


TO was the 28th pick in the 3rd rd in 96 we took Ray Mickens with the 1st pick in the 3rd..Harrison was the 19th pick in the 1st rd...

[Jet Nut]

TO was the 28th pick in the 3rd rd in 96 we took Ray Mickens with the 1st pick in the 3rd..Harrison was the 19th pick in the 1st rd...

And Eric Moulds was taken at 24 of the 1st, after KJ and MH in 96. Not a bad group.

[RazorJet]

Lam Jones was drafted in 1980.

Rice in 1985.

The Jets took Toon over Rice.

Not hard to find.

Little late. and the guy who answered me wasn't a dick about it.
However, I won't ask you to keep up. Please be nicer, we root for the same team.

[Savage69]

And Eric Moulds was taken at 24 of the 1st, after KJ and MH in 96. Not a bad group.

Ray Lewis went 26th and that all world guard Pete Kendall went before him at 21..:yes:

[Jet Nut]

Little late. and the guy who answered me wasn't a dick about it.
However, I won't ask you to keep up. Please be nicer, we root for the same team.

You call me a dick and then ask to be nicer?

Because you were too stupid to realize that Jones and Rice weren't in the same draft class?

GFY.

[Savage69]

All good points Savage. The argument I would make for drafting a "partying" Namath is that it was a different era. The 1980's and cocaine was the first examples of careers being ruined over drugs in sports. As much as Namath was a child of the 60s generation I still believe Namath's partying was considered "boys being boys" and probably "just" alcohol. PArtying type drugs and pro sports were not in the public eye when Namath played.

I thought Ken O'Brien was an excellent QB that walked into a much different situation than Marino in Miami. Ken O'Brien had no OLINE to protect him while Marino had the luxury of an excellent team surrounding him. While I will not argue that Marino had the much better career, it is no garentee that putting Marino behind the same OLINE that O'Brien played behind would have resulted in better results.

Marino had a quick release Kenny took a act of Congress to get rid of the ball and never learned how to throw it away..

[Jet Nut]

All good points Savage. The argument I would make for drafting a "partying" Namath is that it was a different era. The 1980's and cocaine was the first examples of careers being ruined over drugs in sports. As much as Namath was a child of the 60s generation I still believe Namath's partying was considered "boys being boys" and probably "just" alcohol. PArtying type drugs and pro sports were not in the public eye when Namath played.

I thought Ken O'Brien was an excellent QB that walked into a much different situation than Marino in Miami. Ken O'Brien had no OLINE to protect him while Marino had the luxury of an excellent team surrounding him. While I will not argue that Marino had the much better career, it is no garentee that putting Marino behind the same OLINE that O'Brien played behind would have resulted in better results.


Also it was the height of AFL vs NFL war in trying to get the most talent and biggest name talent. The AFL desperately wanted Namath to sign with the AFL, he was already a name and rock star that the AFL needed to sell the league.

[copernicus]

I do blame them..:steamin: Marino had better stats the year before the draft but that group graduated or went into the Draft..He didn't have as good a group around him his last year..When we drafted Namath he had a rep as a big party guy but Werblin didn't care because Namath was also a hell of a football player..I wanted Marino and the group I was with said;WTF when OB was picked..I still say Marino on the Jets throwing to Walker,Toon and Shuler with Freeman/Hector running plus the Jet D would have got us a couple of bowls..:yes:

All good points Savage. The argument I would make for drafting a "partying" Namath is that it was a different era. The 1980's and cocaine was the first examples of careers being ruined over drugs in sports. As much as Namath was a child of the 60s generation I still believe Namath's partying was considered "boys being boys" and probably "just" alcohol. PArtying type drugs and pro sports were not in the public eye when Namath played.

I thought Ken O'Brien was an excellent QB that walked into a much different situation than Marino in Miami. Ken O'Brien had no OLINE to protect him while Marino had the luxury of an excellent team surrounding him. While I will not argue that Marino had the much better career, it is no garentee that putting Marino behind the same OLINE that O'Brien played behind would have resulted in better results.

[RazorJet]

You call me a dick and then ask to be nicer?

Because you were too stupid to realize that Jones and Rice weren't in the same draft class?

GFY.

You need to re-read that. I said that the guy that answered me WASN'T a dick. It only insinuates that you might be.
Your response shows your obvious lack of confidence in how your percieved by others. That'll go away someday.
My, how Freudian.
We'll get along someday, you'll see.
Go Find Yourself too.
go jets

Oh I almost forgot... I totally agree with you that O'brien had a very slow release and need to learn to throw it out of bounds. Good call

[Jet Nut]

You need to re-read that. I said that the guy that answered me WASN'T a dick. It only insinuates that you might be.
Your response shows your obvious lack of confidence in how your percieved by others. That'll go away someday.
My, how Freudian.
We'll get along someday, you'll see.
Go Find Yourself too.
go jets

I don't think that. You feel the need to insinuate that others who know more than you are.

I get it. Dumb with penis envy.

Get over it. Maybe you can find a way to compensate.

[PatsFanTX]

I don't think that. You feel the need to insinuate that others who know more than you are.

I get it. Dumb with penis envy.

Get over it. Maybe you can find a way to compensate.

Damn Nut, you get into more pissing matches with Jets fans than I do. :eek:

[Jet Nut]

Damn Nut, you get into more pissing matches with Jets fans than I do. :eek:

Don't know his problem, he asked if Lam Jones was picked over Jerry Rice and and I answered no.

Asked for details and I told him.

Long way to go to get to 44,561 level though.:yes:

[RazorJet]

I don't think that. You feel the need to insinuate that others who know more than you are.

I get it. Dumb with penis envy.

Get over it. Maybe you can find a way to compensate.

Wow, I'd better learn my place huh.
Everyone admire Jet Nuts giant penis and superior brain. May he be cannonized for their greatness.

[Jet Nut]

Wow, I'd better learn my place huh.
Everyone admire Jet Nuts giant penis and superior brain. May he be cannonized for their greatness.

:zzz::zzz::zzz:

[RazorJet]

Damn Nut, you get into more pissing matches with Jets fans than I do. :eek:

Funny stuff. I was just thinking that he was treating me like a pats fan.
He started this from another post and I must of hit a nerve in response.

[Jet Nut]

Funny stuff. I was just thinking that he was treating me like a pats fan.
He started this from another post and I must of hit a nerve in response.

Hit a nerve?

I started it?

You need to get a grip on yourself. And stop calling people names for no reason.

[copernicus]

This WAS an interesting thread......................

[2009fatman]

Besides the drug rumors on Marino which turned out to be false, It was Joe Waltons decision to take O'Brien over Marino. Walton felt Marino wasn't smart enough to run his complicated offense.:rolleyes:

Although O'Brien had a couple of good years, he was nothing but a living statue in the pocket.

If Walt Micheals would have remained the HC in 83, no way they pass on Marino.

[RazorJet]

Besides the drug rumors on Marino which turned out to be false, It was Joe Waltons decision to take O'Brien over Marino. Walton felt Marino wasn't smart enough to run his complicated offense.:rolleyes:

Although O'Brien had a couple of good years, he was nothing but a living statue in the pocket.

If Walt Micheals would have remained the HC in 83, no way they pass on Marino.

Good info.. I was 12 when that happened and didn't know the scoop. I always liked K .O'B. but thought we got stuck with the worse of the 2.
Nice Avatar. If she is yours, your a lucky man

[chirorob]

It was Art Monk that we overlooked for JL Jones.
Then again in 85' we overlooked Jerry Rice for Al Toon. Now, Toon did okay but just compare the numbers. No comparison.

Put Al Toon on the 49ers and Rice on the Jets.

Toon wasn't Rice, but he also didn't have Montana and Young throwing to him, nor did he have Walsh coaching him.

My biggest Jet bust I can remember is Brady. Everyone, everyone was chanting Sapp. Every fan in the place new Sapp was a better player.

I don't really remember O'Brien over Marino, but that was huge. O'Brien wasn't really a bust though, he just wasn't Dan Marino.

When Blair Thomas was picked, not one person thought that was a bad pick.

[Johnny Bravo]

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[Savage69]

I don't think that. You feel the need to insinuate that others who know more than you are.

I get it. Dumb with penis envy.

Get over it. Maybe you can find a way to compensate.

My Man Jet Nut welcome to Hollywood...:D Drinks are on me and Kerry...:yes:

[jetgreen13]

Besides the drug rumors on Marino which turned out to be false, It was Joe Waltons decision to take O'Brien over Marino. Walton felt Marino wasn't smart enough to run his complicated offense.:rolleyes:

Although O'Brien had a couple of good years, he was nothing but a living statue in the pocket.

If Walt Micheals would have remained the HC in 83, no way they pass on Marino.
fats, i remember the rumors going away..

they just kinda went away after marino became a superstar NFL QB..

[Jet Nut]

My Man Jet Nut welcome to Hollywood...:D Drinks are on me and Kerry...:yes:

Serve them up bro, I'm on my way and up for a cold one. :yes:

[Jordy]

Ugh! Blair Thomas. A terror on the football field at Penn State. Became a born again Christian and then became soft and timid.

[copernicus]

Good info.. I was 12 when that happened and didn't know the scoop. I always liked K .O'B. but thought we got stuck with the worse of the 2.
Nice Avatar. If she is yours, your a lucky man

What QB was taken before both? I think his name was Todd Blackledge and was taken higher than both, didnt amount to much........

[Savage69]

What QB was taken before both? I think his name was Todd Blackledge and was taken higher than both, didnt amount to much........

1 1 John Elway Colts QB Stanford
2 2 Eric Dickerson Rams RB Southern Methodist
3 3 Curt Warner Seahawks RB Penn State
4 4 Chris Hinton Broncos T Northwestern
5 5 Billy Ray Smith Chargers LB Arkansas
6 6 Jimbo Covert Bears T Pittsburgh
7 7 Todd Blackledge Chiefs QB Penn State
8 8 Michael Haddix Eagles RB Mississippi State
9 9 Bruce Matthews Oilers G USC
10 10 Terry Kinard Giants DB Clemson
11 11 Tim Lewis Packers DB Pittsburgh
12 12 Tony Hunter Bills TE Notre Dame
13 13 James Jones Lions RB Florida
14 14 Jim Kelly Bills QB Miami (FL)
15 15 Tony Eason Patriots QB Illinois
16 16 Mike Pitts Falcons DE Alabama
17 17 Leonard Smith Cardinals DB McNeese State
18 18 Willie Gualt Bears WR Tennessee
19 19 Joey Browner Vikings DB USC
20 20 Gary Anderson Chargers RB Arkansas
21 21 Gabriel Rivera Steelers DT Texas Tech
22 22 Gill Byrd Chargers DB San Jose State
23 23 Jim Jeffcoat Cowboys DE Arizona State
24 24 Ken O'Brien Jets QB California-Davis
25 25 Dave Rimington Bengals C Nebraska
26 26 Don Mosebar Raiders T USC
27 27 Dan Marino Dolphins QB Pittsburgh
28 28 Darrell Green Redskins DB Texas A&I

[neevsmazda07]

I'll never understand passing up Dan Marino for Ken Obrien but if we would have ever blocked for the poor guy, we'd consider him one of our best ever.

this is very true... i vividly remember sitting on my couch when i was a kid laughing when the "guy who threw the ball fell"..... little did i know at that tender age that a quarterback with a good o-line should not be on his back or running for his life on every down.... such was the case with that team back then.... :cool:

[Jordy]

Wow, I'd better learn my place huh.
Everyone admire Jet Nuts giant penis and superior brain. May he be cannonized for their greatness.

This post is worthless without pics (no homo).

[jr420x]

wow no wonder the cardinals were so bad they were using first round picks on guys from mcneese st :eek:

[nyjets1969]

Thanks Savage. All the Jet-bashers love to put Blair Thomas at the top of the list. The reality is that the JETS were so bad from top to bottom during those years and there HC was as bad as Kotite except that he was just a miserable person as well. I had the opportunity to meet Blair Thomas and he was kind and considerate. He signed autographs and was personalbe. He was on the right track to being a very good RB and Bruce Coslet crushed his confidence early in his career. The kid was never the same........

100% right Blair thomas was ruined by Coslet. My opinion still is Roger Vick is the biggest bust ever for the Jets. A good number of Fans were either to young to remember or constantly drunk during that time period. There wasnt much to be happy about back then.

[copernicus]

100% right Blair thomas was ruined by Coslet. My opinion still is Roger Vick is the biggest bust ever for the Jets. A good number of Fans were either to young to remember or constantly drunk during that time period. There wasnt much to be happy about back then.

Roger Vick was an awful pick on many levels. Here are two:

- Fullback in the first round.

- I think he set a record for the lowest intelligence score that year for first rounders.

[kcb160]

Put Al Toon on the 49ers and Rice on the Jets.

Toon wasn't Rice, but he also didn't have Montana and Young throwing to him, nor did he have Walsh coaching him.

My biggest Jet bust I can remember is Brady. Everyone, everyone was chanting Sapp. Every fan in the place new Sapp was a better player.

I don't really remember O'Brien over Marino, but that was huge. O'Brien wasn't really a bust though, he just wasn't Dan Marino.

When Blair Thomas was picked, not one person thought that was a bad pick.

Your last sentence is one of the MANY reasons Blair Bust Thomas is the biggest Jets bust of all time. Kyle Brady at least had a career in the NFL beyond his rookie contract. Thomas is worse than Lam Jones because of exactly what you said. He had no red flags. It's all on HIM and not the Jets. Lam Jones was a track star (first and foremost) that the Jets were hoping to pair with Wesley. Thomas takes priority over all them including Roger Vick because Blair Bust Thomas was the SECOND pick in the country and was football player from a school with a pedigree. Lam Jones was not truly a football player.