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2foolish197 09-18-2008 05:37 PM

mavs howard:i'm black.
 
Dallas Mavericks' Josh Howard disrespects national anthem

12:19 PM CDT on Thursday, September 18, 2008
By EDDIE SEFKO / The Dallas Morning News
esefko@dallasnews.com

Josh Howard's decision-making has again come into question after he was filmed disrespecting the national anthem.

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And the Mavericks are taking steps to help Howard and their other players avoid controversy in the future.

In a video posted on YouTube, the swingman is shown at Allen Iverson's charity flag football game in July. When the national anthem is being sung, various participants are shown mugging for the camera. When the camera gets to Howard, he says: " 'The Star-Spangled Banner' is going on. I don't celebrate this [expletive]. I'm black."

Howard goes on to make a difficult-to-discern comment that includes a reference to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.

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The video comes on the heels of his July arrest for a late-night street race in North Carolina and last season's admission that he is an occasional marijuana user. He also had a birthday bash for himself after the Mavericks lost Game 4 of their playoff series against New Orleans, even though coach Avery Johnson had asked the players to keep extracurricular activities to a minimum during the playoffs.

Owner Mark Cuban said the Mavericks dealt with Howard's flag football episode after it happened in July.

"That said, we will be going through some advanced communication-skill sessions together this training camp," Cuban said Tuesday. "I have explained to him that cellphone cameras are not your friend and that what you think you said on camera is never what people will hear when it shows up on YouTube or TV.

"There is only one universal response that works: 'Both teams played hard.' "

This is not the first time Howard has been cast in an un-American light. He rejected an offer to join the U.S. Olympic team when he said the initial training camp in 2006 conflicted with his summer camps.

Howard's agent, Mark Schwartz, did not return phone messages.

The Mavericks received numerous off-season trade offers for Howard, but almost all were from teams who presumed a low-ball offer might prompt a deal. Team officials have said repeatedly they're not interested in trading Howard.

"Josh really is a good guy with a great heart," Cuban said. "He just doesn't do a good job of showing that side of himself publicly. We will work on that."




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2foolish197 09-18-2008 05:37 PM

he says something about obama but can't make it out....

jetstream23 09-18-2008 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2foolish197 (Post 2758717)
he says something about obama but can't make it out....

Maybe something about not having to salute during an anthem or when a crappy singer is performing???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo

brady's a catcher 09-18-2008 05:46 PM

I think he has a good point. When will the white man stop keeping him down? When?

Timmy® 09-18-2008 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 2foolish197 (Post 2758713)

Howard's agent, Mark Schwartz, did not return phone messages.

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He doesn't want a black man handling his finances though.:D

Gagoots 09-18-2008 05:48 PM

Screw thew national anthem.
Doesn't mean anything.
Its childish crap.

vin777b 09-18-2008 05:49 PM

idiot.

Gagoots 09-18-2008 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vin777b (Post 2758737)
idiot.

Yeah.
I'M the idiot.

Do as you're told.

AJGunns 09-18-2008 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetstream23 (Post 2758721)
Maybe something about not having to salute during an anthem or when a crappy singer is performing???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo

1. You only have to salute during the Pledge of Allegiance.
2. You are supposed to face the flag during the National Anthem, so a lot of people screwed up during the National Anthem.
3. Political propaganda doesn't help anyone.

2foolish197 09-18-2008 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gagoots (Post 2758735)
Screw thew national anthem.
Doesn't mean anything.
Its childish crap.

the voice of george carlin speaks thru you.

vin777b 09-18-2008 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gagoots (Post 2758743)
Yeah.
I'M the idiot.



you are? Ok. I believe you.

supergumbo 09-18-2008 06:04 PM

There you go Howard. Fight the white power.

USAFJETSFAN 09-18-2008 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJGunns (Post 2758749)
1. You only have to salute during the Pledge of Allegiance.
2. You are supposed to face the flag during the National Anthem, so a lot of people screwed up during the National Anthem.
3. Political propaganda doesn't help anyone.


Well maybe Obama and you need to know the correct way of rendering respect for the flag.

Sorry...hands covering your croch is not one of them

http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html

32green 09-18-2008 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gagoots (Post 2758735)
Screw thew national anthem.
Doesn't mean anything.
Its childish crap.

Wow. Cutting edge commentary from the comfort of your suburban home.

Even if you detest the current administration, please consider that folks a lot less blessed than you spilled blood and gave their lives to ensure your right to vomit forth that pseudo-radical blather from behind the anonymity of a keyboard.

"It doesn't mean anything".......Clueless.

The Boston Patriot 09-18-2008 06:31 PM

Your best post ever 32!

vin777b 09-18-2008 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 32green (Post 2758798)
Wow. Cutting edge commentary from the comfort of your suburban home.

Even if you detest the current administration, please consider that folks a lot less blessed than you spilled blood and gave their lives to ensure your right to vomit forth that pseudo-radical blather from behind the anonymity of a keyboard.

"It doesn't mean anything".......Clueless.




very well said, 32.

AJGunns 09-18-2008 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by USAFJETSFAN (Post 2758771)
Well maybe Obama and you need to know the correct way of rendering respect for the flag.

Sorry...hands covering your croch is not one of them

http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html

You just worry about what you do during the National Anthem. This is a non-story that was blown out of proportion. My opinion about that incident is not going to change my vote either way anymore than the left-wing propaganda against McCain.

JETranger 206B 09-18-2008 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 32green (Post 2758798)
Wow. Cutting edge commentary from the comfort of your suburban home.

Even if you detest the current administration, please consider that folks a lot less blessed than you spilled blood and gave their lives to ensure your right to vomit forth that pseudo-radical blather from behind the anonymity of a keyboard.

"It doesn't mean anything".......Clueless.

:usaflag::clapper: Hear Hear

2foolish197 09-18-2008 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AJGunns (Post 2758817)
You just worry about what you do during the National Anthem. This is a non-story that was blown out of proportion. My opinion about that incident is not going to change my vote either way anymore than the left-wing propaganda against McCain.

:huh::huh::huh:

JetsFan24 09-18-2008 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 32green (Post 2758798)
Wow. Cutting edge commentary from the comfort of your suburban home.

Even if you detest the current administration, please consider that folks a lot less blessed than you spilled blood and gave their lives to ensure your right to vomit forth that pseudo-radical blather from behind the anonymity of a keyboard.

"It doesn't mean anything".......Clueless.

When was the last time we were invaded by a force threatening to take away our free speech? The national anthem isn't designed to say thank you to the troops, it's designed to foster conformity and nationalism. I'll take a pass, from the comfort of my suburban home (whatever that means).


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