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SenorGato 03-29-2010 12:01 AM

Prospect Battle - Bradford vs. Clausen...
 
What say you?

Edit: Wrong forum. Calling all mods.

Chupa 03-29-2010 12:16 AM

Clausen and its not even close.

Better arm, better footwork, better on the field production.

Yea, he looks like a total douche and plays for ND, but the guy is a top 5 talent, EASILY.

Bradford had a questionable arm before two major shoulder injuries. The though of drafting him #1 overall is absolutely laughable.

JetsFanJim 03-29-2010 11:34 AM

I like Clausen better. I hate Notre Dame, but Clausen has played in a pro style offense, has enough arm strength to make all the throws, is not coming off an injury, and I just think he looks more like a QB. Bradford looks very fragile to me.

Paradis 03-29-2010 11:42 AM

Sorry, I think Bradford's accuracy and clutch-ness put him ahead. Claussen's got the tools to be successful, but I wonder if he can put it all together. He's San Diego syndrome. He'll either be a Rivers or a Leaf...

K-Ro 25 03-29-2010 11:45 AM

Bradford has a very bad release, and has numerous injury concerns, and I think Clausen is the total package. Bradford is a little overhyped, while Clausen is looking like he is underrated right now.

Clausen, easily.

49ersJetsfan 03-29-2010 11:53 AM

Can we have a "both will not turn into anything special" option?

Monsterxman 03-29-2010 12:57 PM

Bradford is a better prospect... he's got the size, enough arm and most important accuracy you like to see. He's similiar in mechanics, size, arm strength and accuracy to Phillip Rivers and I believe he can be that type of QB in time in the NFL.

I like Clausen's arm and skillset... but let's be honest he padded his stats playing against poor defenses this year. Also Brady Quinn looked all world in college too playing in that same offense.

TheMo 03-29-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Monsterxman (Post 3540477)
Bradford is a better prospect... he's got the size, enough arm and most important accuracy you like to see. He's similiar in mechanics, size, arm strength and accuracy to Phillip Rivers and I believe he can be that type of QB in time in the NFL.

I like Clausen's arm and skillset... but let's be honest he padded his stats playing against poor defenses this year. Also Brady Quinn looked all world in college too playing in that same offense.

He also played with a garbage Oline and rarely had all of the weapons at the same time (injuries and whatnot).

I suggest that draft people read this article on walterfootball I found it very informative: http://walterfootball.com/jimmyclausenhate.php

bitonti 03-29-2010 01:52 PM

i dont think either of these prospects are all that amazing but Bradford is head and shoulders better than CLausen... according to every insider i've spoken to... that's everyone from college coaches, agents, refs, and NFL people... clausen is only better on the internez.

site note relevant to the Jets... people say Tate really helped Clausen... w/o tate he might not have been such a productive QB.

gangGREENinsider 03-29-2010 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 49ersJetsfan (Post 3540411)
Can we have a "both will not turn into anything special" option?

+1

But Bradford>>>>Clausen

Ven0m 03-29-2010 02:08 PM

The people who are now ripping on Bradford's arm remind me of the people who were ripping on Mark Sanchez's arm last year, and Matt Ryan's arm the year before that. There is no doubt that Sam Bradford has a strong enough arm to make all the throws. But for some reason people tend to fall in love with a JaMarcus Russell-esque cannon and overrate the arm strength aspect of it.

Add in that he's got way better accuracy, leadership abilities, and overall ability to read the field and I don't think it's even all that close. (Although the shotgun offense does give me some pause w/ Bradford).

NYJCAP2 03-29-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ven0m (Post 3540563)
The people who are now ripping on Bradford's arm remind me of the people who were ripping on Mark Sanchez's arm last year, and Matt Ryan's arm the year before that. There is no doubt that Sam Bradford has a strong enough arm to make all the throws. But for some reason people tend to fall in love with a JaMarcus Russell-esque cannon and overrate the arm strength aspect of it.

Add in that he's got way better accuracy, leadership abilities, and overall ability to read the field and I don't think it's even all that close. (Although the shotgun offense does give me some pause w/ Bradford).

Qft

SenorGato 03-29-2010 02:26 PM

What's not to like about Clausen?

49ersJetsfan 03-29-2010 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gangGREENinsider (Post 3540555)
+1

But Bradford>>>>Clausen

From what I've seen of them, Clausen seems to have better instincts and actually was asked to make reads in his offense. Bradford on the other hand was always told what to do for all of his reads. He reminds me so much of Alex Smith coming out...

VincenzoTestaverde 03-29-2010 08:24 PM

Bradford

Chupa 03-29-2010 10:06 PM

Mark Sanchez' arm strength was never really in question. Certainly not to the extent of Bradford or Ryan.

SenorGato 03-29-2010 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chupa (Post 3541047)
Mark Sanchez' arm strength was never really in question. Certainly not to the extent of Bradford or Ryan.

Oh, but it was definitely questioned...CB bashed the crap out of it IIRC.

vinluvr 03-30-2010 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorGato (Post 3541057)
Oh, but it was definitely questioned...CB bashed the crap out of it IIRC.

http://jetsinsider.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=64

http://jetsinsider.com/forums/showpo...9&postcount=70


Quote:

Originally Posted by Come Back to NY (Post 3017302)
Sanchez can't throw the ball outside of 25 yards without his passes dying in the air- it was a constant on film and I saw the same thing on Sunday...not a fluke- pure reality...

I don't see much difference between between sanchez and lienart- except lienart's got a heisman trophy and NC to fall back on...


Come Back to NY 03-30-2010 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorGato (Post 3541057)
Oh, but it was definitely questioned...CB bashed the crap out of it IIRC.

is he a vertical QB?? and how was he in bad weather games such as Buffalo at home???

the one thing you can't measure, especially in a QB, is maturity....that's why Manning, Ryan, Flacco and Sanchez have done well while leinart, russell, etc have fallen flat on their face....

btw- I was not the only person who questioned sanchez' arm strength and said he'd be best off in a timing/west coast offense- and I'll take the company of those who said as much any day....

Untouchable 03-30-2010 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorGato (Post 3540591)
What's not to like about Clausen?

His amazing inconsistency?

I agree with Mayock's comparison of Jimmy Clausen/Jake Plummer.

Good prospect, could be a solid starter for a number of years. But he's never going to be anything special IMO.


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