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k.Rhodes25 05-03-2011 04:58 PM

Who was a better prospect Wilkerson or Odrick
 
Jared Odrick 6'5 305

http://bocaratontribune.com/wp-conte...aredOdrick.jpg

Muhammad Wilkerson 6'4 315

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1302736542

bitonti 05-03-2011 05:01 PM

its gonna sound homerish but wilkerson by alot

i saw both of these players up close. Wilkerson cause im in Philly and have seen Temple a couple times, Odrick i saw at the Senior Bowl. Wilkerson has vast untapped potential and a more steady player.

Odrick is maxed out but hot and cold. Odrick 1 play he'd dominate and make a TFL the next he'd be pancaked on the ground. Wilkerson is younger coming out and has more to learn but also more potential.

FijiJet 05-03-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bitonti (Post 4020156)
its gonna sound homerish but wilkerson by alot

i saw both of these players up close. Wilkerson cause im in Philly and have seen Temple a couple times, Odrick i saw at the Senior Bowl. Wilkerson has vast untapped potential and a more steady player.

Odrick is maxed out but hot and cold. Odrick 1 play he'd dominate and make a TFL the next he'd be pancaked on the ground. Wilkerson is younger coming out and has more to learn but also more potential.

Thanks for that, I'll take the more consistent player with the higher upside

JonEJet 05-03-2011 07:47 PM

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Much ado about Nothing 05-03-2011 08:03 PM

Another vote for Wilkerson using bit's reasoning. Also, if I want a prospect I don't go to Penn State. Not that I'd run to Temple either, but Al Golden's Temple? Sure.

Woody56 05-03-2011 08:05 PM

This is no homer, but Wilkerson easily. Wilk has some of the biggest upside in the whole 2011 class and I don't think you can say the same about Odrick in the 2010 class.

OCCH 05-03-2011 08:20 PM

Sorry -- I don't follow non-Jet players much . . .

Are we asking this question because Odrick turned out GOOD, and we're hoping Wilk can be even BETTER, or because Odrick STINKS and we're praying Wilk doesn't turn out the same?:huh:

Edit: Regardless, the responses to this are VERY encouraging:yes:

TheMikeIsHot 05-03-2011 08:52 PM

Odrick was one of the guys I wanted no part of last year. I obviously don't think very highly of him and I'd be surprised if he ever became a dominant player.

Wilkerson is bigger, stronger, and faster. He's not a finished product and there's no telling if he'll ever reach his ceiling, but I'd take his skillset and athleticism over Odrick's any day.

Much ado about Nothing 05-03-2011 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OCCH (Post 4020307)
Sorry -- I don't follow non-Jet players much . . .

Are we asking this question because Odrick turned out GOOD, and we're hoping Wilk can be even BETTER, or because Odrick STINKS and we're praying Wilk doesn't turn out the same?:huh:

Edit: Regardless, the responses to this are VERY encouraging:yes:

Odrick's just mediocre.

Untouchable 05-03-2011 09:58 PM

Wilkerson

And that's from a guy who wanted Odrick last year. Mostly just because I wanted a young DL prospect so bady.

k.Rhodes25 05-03-2011 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OCCH (Post 4020307)
Sorry -- I don't follow non-Jet players much . . .

Are we asking this question because Odrick turned out GOOD, and we're hoping Wilk can be even BETTER, or because Odrick STINKS and we're praying Wilk doesn't turn out the same?:huh:

Edit: Regardless, the responses to this are VERY encouraging:yes:

Odrick went 28th overall to the Dolphins last year and some discussions about maybe us taking him last year, just wanted to know who was a better prospect. Looks like Wilkerson had more production at younger ages, but he also played against lesser competition.

Odrick was placed on the IR his rookie season with the Dolphins.

Bronxville Jets Fan 05-03-2011 10:19 PM

I know not many care for Kiper, but for what it's worth, I saw in one of his chats that he was asked how Odrick compared to Heyward and Kiper said that he thought Heyward was better. From this we can assume that he had Wilkerson ranked way ahead of Odrick considering that he had Wilkerson ranked 10 or so spots higher than Heyward.

Bronxville Jets Fan 05-03-2011 10:34 PM

There's a lot of talk in Miami about Odrick possibly being dogged by injuries his entire career. Apparently the leg issue that sidelined him last year was a preexisting issue.

That said, I really wanted him last year and wonder if the Jets would have taken him had he been available at 29.

Flaming Mo 05-04-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JonEJet (Post 4020278)

Haha, I just realized I have the same nickname... even though it is not as fitting with me being 6-4 and 215 lbs as it is with Wilkerson...:D

crasherino 05-04-2011 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaming Mo (Post 4020624)
Haha, I just realized I have the same nickname... even though it is not as fitting with me being 6-4 and 215 lbs as it is with Wilkerson...:D

But its interesting that you went with "Flaming Mo". How come you didn't choose "Big Flaming Mo"?

As far as Odrick goes, I remember watching the PSU/OSU game in 2009 and coming away with the opinion that Hewyard was the best defensive player on the field. He was head and shoulders better than Odrick. I realize it was just one game, but it seemed telling to me.

Flaming Mo 05-04-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crasherino (Post 4020678)
But its interesting that you went with "Flaming Mo". How come you didn't choose "Big Flaming Mo"?

As far as Odrick goes, I remember watching the PSU/OSU game in 2009 and coming away with the opinion that Hewyard was the best defensive player on the field. He was head and shoulders better than Odrick. I realize it was just one game, but it seemed telling to me.

Well, Flaming Mo has been my email address for like forever, based on that one Simpsons episode. People usually just call me "Mo" or "Big Mo"...:D

Can't wait to see Wilkerson on the field... our frontline will be intimidating with the newly added size...

patman 05-05-2011 04:54 AM

Oldrick had a higher floor but less potential, I like Wilkenson at 24, but the oly reservation i had on him was that i thought he should have been more productve a lower level conference.

TheMikeIsHot 05-05-2011 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by patman (Post 4021578)
Oldrick had a higher floor but less potential, I like Wilkenson at 24, but the oly reservation i had on him was that i thought he should have been more productve a lower level conference.

2010 (12 games): 70 tackles, 13.5 TFL, 9.5 sacks
2009 (13 games): 61 tackles , 10.5 TFL, 7 sacks

Those numbers look pretty good to me.

BRONX JET 05-05-2011 07:10 AM

Honestly don't know much about Wilkerson, but he seems really really llooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnggggggg!

k.Rhodes25 05-06-2011 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patman (Post 4021578)
Oldrick had a higher floor but less potential, I like Wilkenson at 24, but the oly reservation i had on him was that i thought he should have been more productve a lower level conference.

I forget where I read it, probably on this board, but it said how Temple didn't use Wilkerson to his full potential. They played a lot of read and react style of defense, so he had to stay back and read the plays instead of attacking. The article also said when they allowed Wilkerson to attack, he would dominate. So the read and react defense may have lessen his numbers, but his numbers looked pretty productive to me.


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