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jetswin 05-05-2011 01:04 PM

Pakistani sabre rattling...
 
:rolleyes:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/wo...a/06react.html

Quote:

The head of Pakistan’s army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, said Thursday that he would not tolerate a repeat of the American covert operation that killed Osama bin Laden, warning that any similar action would lead to a reconsideration of the relationship with the United States.
Just what exactly does the US get out of this "relationship?" We send them billions, and Bin Laden was resting at the Pakistani Army's version of Shady Brook Farms for six years.

JetsFan2012 05-05-2011 01:30 PM

Yeah seriously. They can eat a huge bag of dicks.

I'm reading a very interesting book right now called Ghost Wars. Essentially Pakistan has been jerking us around and bilking us out of billions since the early 80s.

PlumberKhan 05-05-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jetswin (Post 4021999)
:rolleyes:

he would not tolerate a repeat of the American covert operation that killed Osama bin Laden.

Oh yeah. And what the f*** are they going to do about it? Not accept the 3 billion dollars were scheduled to hand over to them in "aid" this year?

:rolleyes:

Feeling froggy General Ashfaq-er? Seal Team Six has a few hours to spare. Want to meet with them personally to express your anger? They can be there at 1am...they'll rappel right down to the balcony your standing on right now...:yes:

palmetto defender 05-05-2011 01:44 PM

Pakistan has threatened disastrous results if we pull another raid. No real need now is there. They also want a reduction in our military presence (about 275) in Pakistan.
1. Pull all our troops out of there.
2. Don't give them any more money.
3. Continue to use drone attacks as we see fit.
4.. Break off diplomatic relations. We pull our embassy. We expel theirs from the U.S.
5. Put an embargo on all Pakistani good shipped to the U.S. They do a fair amount of textiles.
6. Give greater support (not financial) to India.
We do not need these dogs.

detectivekimble 05-05-2011 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by pauliec (Post 4022020)
Yeah seriously. They can eat a huge bag of dicks.

I'm reading a very interesting book right now called Ghost Wars. Essentially Pakistan has been jerking us around and bilking us out of billions since the early 80s.

This isn't a black and white issue. They've arrested many terrorists and got KSM for us, which probably led to OBL.

And I think the "jerking around" works both ways. Didn't we stiff them on some fighter jets back in 1989? I think W eventually came through on the fighter jets a few years ago, though. (Which is why I never understood why the Pakistanis hated W -- he treated them much better than Clinton did).

Revi$_I$l@nd 05-05-2011 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by palmetto defender (Post 4022041)
Pakistan has threatened disastrous results if we pull another raid. No real need now is there. They also want a reduction in our military presence (about 275) in Pakistan.
1. Pull all our troops out of there.
2. Don't give them any more money.
3. Continue to use drone attacks as we see fit.
4.. Break off diplomatic relations. We pull our embassy. We expel theirs from the U.S.
5. Put an embargo on all Pakistani good shipped to the U.S. They do a fair amount of textiles.
6. Give greater support (not financial) to India.
We do not need these dogs.

+ a million

PlumberKhan 05-05-2011 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detectivekimble (Post 4022059)
And I think the "jerking around" works both ways. .

3 billion a year from us to them. They're not allowed to complain about anything we do. STFU Pakistan. Period.

WestCoastOffensive 05-05-2011 02:58 PM

That's like dirty cops crying that the FBI grabbed Gotti before they could.

parafly 05-05-2011 03:05 PM

It's such a shallow threat.

Let them "reevaluate" the relationship. We'll "reevaluate" our billions in aid, frequency of drone strikes, and military aid to India.

Jet_Engine1 05-05-2011 03:37 PM

I've never understood why this nation has gone out of its way to have a "relationship" with Pakistan and alienated India.

**** the Pakis, lets have Delta or DevGru go in and eliminate Pakistans Nuke facility/storage site and tell India they have a Go.

bitonti 05-05-2011 03:39 PM

pakistan is the AIG of countries too big to fail

JetsFan2012 05-05-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bitonti (Post 4022246)
pakistan is the AIG of countries too big to fail

Yeah, and they know it, too.

jetstream23 05-06-2011 02:59 AM

We send them billions. They can't find UBL hiding in a mansion for 5 years down the road from a Pakistani military academy. Either complicity or incompetency...and neither is desirable from a supposed "ally" who possess the bomb, btw.

bitonti 05-06-2011 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetstream23 (Post 4022705)
We send them billions. They can't find UBL hiding in a mansion for 5 years down the road from a Pakistani military academy. Either complicity or incompetency...and neither is desirable from a supposed "ally" who possess the bomb, btw.

The supply lines for Afghanistan war go through Pakistan

they can't go through Iran

Pakistan has tons of leverage in their relationship with the USA

and we did it to ourselves.

Warfish 05-06-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet_Engine1 (Post 4022243)
I've never understood why this nation has gone out of its way to have a "relationship" with Pakistan and alienated India.

**** the Pakis, lets have Delta or DevGru go in and eliminate Pakistans Nuke facility/storage site and tell India they have a Go.

It's very simple: They are the least stable, least reliable Nation on Earth who posssess nuclear weapons.

Since we're not going to do anything of the sort of what you suggest (blow up their nukes) without overwhelming cause, being their "big friend" is the best way available to manage and control them to some degree, exploit whomever is in their territory (like OBL), and limit the risk of a Nuclear Snafoo. In effect, we're buying the perception of added stabillity and safety from a regional nuclear war.

And we don't alienate India, per se. We like India, and they understand (generally) what our relationship with Pakistan is all about.

Sourceworx 05-06-2011 01:23 PM

So let me get this straight. The Pakistanis have been hiding bin Laden for years (don't tell they didn't know he was there all this time), and they get pissed at us for going in and killing him without letting them know first?

Give me a break.

Re-evaluate our relationship, and go f*ck yourselves while you're at it.

quantum 05-06-2011 01:39 PM

warning that any similar action would lead to a reconsideration of the relationship with the United States.


:rofl:

Translation: "Invading our territory again may cause us to be angry with you, and POSSIBLY not be your friends anymore. Maybe even shake our fingers at you and say "BAD!". Maybe. We haven't decided. BTW, where's this month's check?"

bitonti 05-06-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sourceworx (Post 4023110)

Re-evaluate our relationship, and go f*ck yourselves while you're at it.

let me repeat myself

the supply lines for Afghanistan go through Pakistan.

that's pretty much the only way in...

http://data.un.org/_Images/Maps/Afghanistan.gif

unless that war ends tomorrow we can't tell Pakistan go screw.

quantum 05-06-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bitonti (Post 4023135)
let me repeat myself

the supply lines for Afghanistan go through Pakistan.

that's pretty much the only way in...

http://data.un.org/_Images/Maps/Afghanistan.gif

unless that war ends tomorrow we can't tell Pakistan go screw.

we should go through Iran.


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