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Originally Posted by JetPotato
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1) No part of the study assigns obesity as a cause of autism
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Quite right, it's only strongly intimated that it may be a causal relationship and worth exploring further.
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Originally Posted by JetPotato
(Post 4431844)
2) What's your problem with the study? The clear display of numbers showing a possible link? As opposed to the many out there that do assign causation with no such data?
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I have a problem with studies that look at largely inane possible causation scenarios like the weight of the mom or whether dad is over 35 instead of looking at what could be causing these miraculous de novo gene
mutations that keep popping up. For every case of the latter I can easily show study upon study that looks at MRI imaging of some sort. Over, and over, and over again. Your research dollars at work!!!
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Originally Posted by JetPotato
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3) Is it not worth looking into if there is a possible connection? Or is obsesity already dismissed in your mind? Based on what?
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I feel that there are far more likely risk factors that need to be looked at considering that over 1% of the children in the US have an ASD. That pragmatic way of thinking makes even more sense when you breakdown the prevalence numbers further up against this "study"; because that would mean that there must be a higher incidence of fat moms in NJ as opposed to say Alabama, given those states numbers. Like I said, it's a silly study for the MIND Institute to be throwing NIH(?) money at. Should everything be looked at? Sure, why not. But like they say in medical school, when you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not zebras. This study is a zebra.
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Originally Posted by JetPotato
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4) Is it a bad thing that these articles are coming out? Isn't that the entire point of Autism Awareness Month? To bring awareness to the public? Would you rather autism is never spoken of?
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The point of Autism Awareness month is to bring about awareness and understanding of the condition, not to draw attention to the studies that answer very little. Hell, they can't even come up with a viable theory of etiology, but they can ferret out missing protein molecules that
may lead to susceptibility in
1% of all ASD cases? This study does not bring awareness, it's basically just another variation of the "refrigerator mother" theory posited by Bruno Bettelheim all those decades ago. That was, coincidentally, put forth utilizing epidemiological methods in the absence of an actual disease. As for the timing, I find it a bit irresponsible to not share data when you have it, instead choosing to release it when it lines up with a non-scientific observation meant to bring about understanding and awareness to layman. Don't you think it seems...manipulative and selfish?
I'll treat the last question you put forth as the non sequitur it is JP, with all due respect.
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Originally Posted by Trades
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Yes, I remember this. There is an equally interesting article about the state of peer review. I'll see if I can find it...
EDIT- best I could do on short notice:
http://www.fish.washington.edu/resea...ience_2006.pdf
And if you look around you may be able to find a copy of this book out there:
http://www.amazon.com/Trouble-Medica...r=8-1%E2%80%9D