> Mark Sanchez is #6
> He just lost MNF game #666
> He has thrown 6 TDs and 6 INTs
> His passer rating is 66.6
> His longest completion is 66 yards
> His average yards per attempt is 6.6
They SHOULD bench him for McElroy.
They PROBABLY will eventually bench him for Tebow, but that won't happen until this team is either 2-6 or 3-9, 4-8.
If we beat Indianapolis, Sanchez lives all the way until Arizona, barring injury.
If we lose to Indianapolis, it's Tebow Time Week 10 in Seattle.
So u are saying that in 2010, Sanchez had a ( great/Solid/OK ) season in his 2nd yr as an NFL QB.
Originally Posted by FMJets
There's much truth in your words grey rider, and that's why i agree with them. The problem is, the Jets do not know what they have as a backup plan should they ever be forced to find out. We all pretty much know what Tim Tebow is as a QB, but McElroy is an unknown in the NFL and a waste of a roster spot unless he can actually help the team . When would it be time to find out about this kid's ability to be even a Pat Ryan type.
Originally Posted by Winstonbiggs
This may sound cold to some, but no QB has ever needed a high ankle sprain as badly as Mark Sanchez does . The kid needs some time away from under Center so he can :
1 - Get a break from the pounding he's getting from defenses,the Fans and the national media.
2 - Allow all those mentioned above to see just how either good or bad things truely are.
3 - Prepare himself for next season either to be the undisputed leader of the Jets offense or to challenge whomever he has to for a starting position on his next team.
Not only those, but he's been absolutely brutal on the short outs, some have been completed by they never catch it in stride, which makes it almost impossible to gain positive yardage.
Originally Posted by Warfish
I am/was a Sanchez supporter - I can't say "was" 100%, because I still think he's probably the QB that gives us the best chance to win, but he has been playing absolutely terribly, and you lose your credibility as a Sanchez supporter if you can't admit this. This isn't recent, either, it dates back to the Baltimore game last season (first game Mangold was out). I don't know what's going on, but another poster in another thread said "he's got no feel" for his passes - I think that's true, and I'd go a step further and say he's got no feel for the game right now - never seems to feel backside pressure the way other veteran QBs do, sometimes it seems like he could step up to avoid pressure and he doesn't, sometimes he steps up and into pressure, has no touch on his passes, etc. He doesn't have a veteran group of receivers that he's spent any good amount of time with, and that's always going to lead to a perceived lack of accuracy to a degree (for example, you can never really know if a 8-10yd post was thrown behind the receiver or the receiver broke it off too soon, or at too steep an angle, etc.) but those short flares and outs are more telling.
He should get one half vs. the Colts, if its the same Sanchez crap play we've seen for the past 4 weeks, TEBOWE TIME! The whole team will rally around Timmy.
I could also see the Jets winning an ugly one to the Colts despite Sanchez, then having him meltdown in a humiliating loss to the Pats, and having Tebow take over after that, winning 7 outta the last 9 games in typical Tebow fashion.
Tebow is inevitable. I wont be sitting in my seats again until Sanchez is on the bench.
Sorry, but you will surely lose this argument. You are one of the very few that still supports that waste of a roster spot.
Originally Posted by Manchez
I also noticed you were very clever to clarify that Sanchez never threw into any triple coverage, LAST NIGHT. Now, why don't you share the full truth and admit it's happened MANY times in the past.
And try to divide up the blame all you want about Sanchez's two picks. The last one is crystal clear. If he doesn't throw an inaccurate ball, the ball doesn't get tipped and intercepted. Simple as that. That's just one more mistake in an obscenely long list of failures Sanchez can sign off on.
Made the right decisions with the football? I really don't think you should be telling me how little I know.:rolleyes: How many f*cking tipped passes does it take from Watt until Sanchez figures out he shouldn't be throwing it in his direction unless he can adjust his throw? That's called simple deduction.
Now, also if he made the right decisions with the football can you tell me why he completed only 48% of his passes. Because that statistic certainly doesn't seem to lend much credibility to what you are claiming, now does it?
It's time for the Jets to move on from Sanchez. You can hold on to the past all you'd like, but the Jets are going to move forward without you before this season is over.
It's time to really start looking at building for the future. Is Sanchez really the guy for us? If so, then start him the rest of the way. But if you think he isn't, then it's a simple answer.
For me, Sanchez is a backup at best. Bench him, root for a 2 win season, and let's draft Geno. Going 7-9 will get us a non-impact player plus we'll miss out on the top QBs.
Fire Rex and Tanny. Get a real GM, and hire Chip Kelly.
You know what?
Excuse the bump but it really doesn't matter what anyone here votes....
....what matters is what Rex Ryan does. And I truly think he just might go with Mark the entire way since he's his guy, basically.
So I don't really see either Tebow nor McElroy get a START at all.
Says the genius that wants to start noodle arm...
Originally Posted by Mainejet
Listen I'm not trying to say Sanchez is going to be a HOF QB, but he's absolutely the best QB on our roster and since he's just started his 4th year with crap for talent around him he deserves to start the rest of the year. Sanchez is making improvements that the stats don't show and the ignorant can't see. He absolutely is making better decisions with the football. Is he also making mistakes? Of course he is.
A QB can absolutely make the right decision where to throw the ball and it can still be incomplete due to a poor throw/poor route/tipped pass/dropped pass/Powell falls down/Gates rounds off his route instead of cutting sharply turning a perfect pass into an INT/Cumberland drops a pass that any NFL caliber TE should catch 100% of the time/Hill drops a perfectly thrown TD pass/Cumberland takes his route too deep into the endzone which turns an easy TD catch to Hill into an INT etc. This should be extremely obvious to anyone that knows even the tiniest little bit about the game of football, but you don't understand it; go figure.
No matter how much you want Sanchez benched Rex is not going to do it. He's not the greatest coach in the world, but he's not quite a genius on the level you are.
BTW JJ Watt had more passes defended than any CORNERBACK in the league before he played the Jets. It's not like Sanchez is the only QB he's tipped passes against; the guy is 6'6" and can reach a foot and a half over a basketball rim. He's a freak athlete on the DL that specializes in tipping passes.
I'm done talking to you because you only add ignorance to the conversation; I have no more time for your ignorance of facts.
I'd play Tebow since I want the Jets to get a high draft pick. When Tebow bombs out, let McElroy start the last 3 or 4 games to see if he's got anything.
lageman, I feel your pain, you remind me of myself about 10 months ago. I can tell by your recent posts that all of this is hitting you like a ton of bricks right now and you are getting more and more enraged. I feel exactly the same.
Originally Posted by lageman4ever
Honestly, how much more do the JETS owner, HC, and GM think that fans can take?
Once they fixed the RT problem I really did think the team would have a great year. I believed Sanchez would take a big step as a QB this season. He did but unfortunately that step has been backwards ! And the D has underwhelmed so far with the vaunted rookies completely invisible.
Originally Posted by copernicus
I guess I get frustrated most at the fact that the team doesn't seem to be developing players or putting them in situations that maximizes their opportunities for success. And there's not much accountability on the field. How Bart Scott and Grenne can continue to start in the face of horrible performances just boggles the mind.
Rex just seems to be stuck in one mind-set and won't consider other alternatives. He goes with the same tired old vets, uses the same ineffective schemes and seems to make no adjustments to fix obvious problems. I mean how could a HC miss things that all of us internet doofuses on JI can see so easily.
The Rex bluster I could put up with (barely) when the team was winning. Now it's just so tiresome. And these distractions like Tebow really make me wonder what's going on in the FO. The team is truly a circus show from the owner on down.