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Flymax 11-14-2012 07:53 AM

Stephen A. Smith Breaks Down Our QB Situation
 
Starting about half way in. Priceless.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/stor...chez-tim-tebow

124 11-14-2012 08:03 AM

Stephen A. Smith should stick to the NBA.

Digetydog 11-14-2012 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 124 (Post 4683891)
Stephen A. Smith should stick to the NBA.

Stephen A should be unemployed. Ginormous windbag.

LIJetsFan 11-14-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 124 (Post 4683891)
Stephen A. Smith should stick to the NBA.

I don't like Stephen A but I was with him all the way here until he started talking about MS not having the support he needs around him. MS has zero football IQ. He can't read the defense. He can't aubable vs the blitz. He can't protect himself. He can't remember to protect the ball. He gets picked in the red zone all the time. He is inaccurate. He looks defeated.

He may be ok somewhere else at some point with a fresh start but he's failed as a Jet.

Dunnie 11-14-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LIJetsFan (Post 4683936)
I don't like Stephen A but I was with him all the way here until he started talking about MS not having the support he needs around him. MS has zero football IQ. He can't read the defense. He can't aubable vs the blitz. He can't protect himself. He can't remember to protect the ball. He gets picked in the red zone all the time. He is inaccurate. He looks defeated.

He may be ok somewhere else at some point with a fresh start but he's failed as a Jet.

... At least Incan dominate with Sanchez in Madden ... Lol.

Flymax 11-14-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LIJetsFan (Post 4683936)
I don't like Stephen A but I was with him all the way here until he started talking about MS not having the support he needs around him. MS has zero football IQ. He can't read the defense. He can't aubable vs the blitz. He can't protect himself. He can't remember to protect the ball. He gets picked in the red zone all the time. He is inaccurate. He looks defeated.

He may be ok somewhere else at some point with a fresh start but he's failed as a Jet.

I usually can't stand him too but thought he was on with this one. i think Mark's ball security is his #1 issue.

CleatMarks 11-14-2012 09:34 AM

The one thing that he misses the point on is when he gives Rex a potential free pass when he says maybe it's all the GM's fault. Don't forget, Rex was very happy with the talent at the start of the season. He obviously bought into and approved of the moves.

Demosthenes9 11-14-2012 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CleatMarks (Post 4683967)
The one thing that he misses the point on is when he gives Rex a potential free pass when he says maybe it's all the GM's fault. Don't forget, Rex was very happy with the talent at the start of the season. He obviously bought into and approved of the moves.

In all fairness, what else could he do ? Come out and say "Well, my boss, Mike Tannenbaum, has saddled me with a bunch of hot garbage, but I'm going to do my best to try and squeeze some wins out of them?"

I against I 11-14-2012 09:45 AM

Bayless says a Tebow led Jets team would be 6-3 if he started from the start of the season.

SAS "and I think you spike your diet Mountain Dew."

Digetydog 11-14-2012 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CleatMarks (Post 4683967)
The one thing that he misses the point on is when he gives Rex a potential free pass when he says maybe it's all the GM's fault. Don't forget, Rex was very happy with the talent at the start of the season. He obviously bought into and approved of the moves.

How many employees publically criticize their boss' work?

If he said his team wasn't good enough, his team would turn on him.

There is no way Rex was going to tell the papers that the team wasn't good enough.

LIDeadHead 11-14-2012 12:05 PM

holla at your booooooooooooooooooooooyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys !

Dreamers 11-14-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by I against I (Post 4683978)
Bayless says a Tebow led Jets team would be 6-3 if he started from the start of the season.

SAS "and I think you spike your diet Mountain Dew."

He may be right Mark has been that friggen bad. Not one game with over 200 yards and no INTs. Pist if you add in the rushing yards Tebow at least did that times last year so your not talking hart to hit numbers. Tebow could have done better then Mark in quite a few games this year IMO. Maybe not 6-3 but we would have a better record. Even if you go by Tebows stats from last year and say he didn't progress at all he is still a better QB right now. Mark has already had more att. then Tebow had last year. Less Yards per att, more INTs, less TDs, and not even close to what Tebow had on the ground. Mark has had a better team around him this year then Tebow had last year. Anyone who thinks that Tebow wasn't throwing to two unproven WRs (injured too may I add) last year and lesser TE better look again. Even if he brings the same passing results as Mark he improves the run game largely and I'll take that.

southside 11-14-2012 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LIDeadHead (Post 4684217)
holla at your booooooooooooooooooooooyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys !

YOUUUU BETTER BELIEVE IT!

McGinley 11-14-2012 07:25 PM

I know Stephen A. Smith; he's a good friend of mine....... but this is soo diiisreSPECTFUL!

Vin 11-14-2012 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LIJetsFan (Post 4683936)
I don't like Stephen A but I was with him all the way here until he started talking about MS not having the support he needs around him. MS has zero football IQ. He can't read the defense. He can't aubable vs the blitz. He can't protect himself. He can't remember to protect the ball. He gets picked in the red zone all the time. He is inaccurate. He looks defeated.

He may be ok somewhere else at some point with a fresh start but he's failed as a Jet.

So let me get this straight :

Mark has zero football IQ and yet you're saying he may be ok somewhere else with a fresh start.....WHAT? :scratch:

It's either one or the other. If a QB has no IQ then no amount of "coaching" will give him any "IQ". You either have it or you don't.

Am I right?

TheMo 11-14-2012 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley (Post 4684766)
I know Stephen A. Smith; he's a good friend of mine....... but this is soo diiisreSPECTFUL!

McGinley it's good to see you brotha... I love you like a brotha... but there is NO WAY that he was disrespecting!!

JaxSuzy 11-14-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamers (Post 4684733)
He may be right Mark has been that friggen bad. Not one game with over 200 yards and no INTs. Pist if you add in the rushing yards Tebow at least did that times last year so your not talking hart to hit numbers. Tebow could have done better then Mark in quite a few games this year IMO. Maybe not 6-3 but we would have a better record. Even if you go by Tebows stats from last year and say he didn't progress at all he is still a better QB right now. Mark has already had more att. then Tebow had last year. Less Yards per att, more INTs, less TDs, and not even close to what Tebow had on the ground. Mark has had a better team around him this year then Tebow had last year. Anyone who thinks that Tebow wasn't throwing to two unproven WRs (injured too may I add) last year and lesser TE better look again. Even if he brings the same passing results as Mark he improves the run game largely and I'll take that.

+1000. Excellent summation. Hey, is that a spoonful of hot sauce you're feeding that kid?

McGinley 11-14-2012 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMo (Post 4684782)
McGinley it's good to see you brotha... I love you like a brotha... but there is NO WAY that he was disrespecting!!

Ohhh, puh-leeeeease! The only thing more diiisreSPECTFUL than Stephen A. is one Mr. Tiagmo Thhhhplitter!

But, you know how we do on First Take. We embrace debate around here, so come on the show. You're welcome anytime, brother.

Vin 11-14-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by McGinley (Post 4684790)
Ohhh, puh-leeeeease! The only thing more diiisreSPECTFUL than Stephen A. is one Mr. Tiagmo Thhhhplitter!

But, you know how we do on First Take. We embrace debate around here, so come on the show. You're welcome anytime, brother.

You be rustlin'.....

McGinley 11-14-2012 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vin (Post 4684823)
You be rustlin'.....

If you havin' jimmy problems, I feel bad for you son. I got 99 jimmies and you can't rustle one.


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