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McElroy's Wonderlic score

Out of a possible 50

1. Tim Tebow - 22

2. Mark Sanchez - 28

3. Greg McElroy - 43

Eh, never was a big believer in the Wonderlic

Super Mother Effing Bowl.

better wonderlic than chad "its all about the intangibles" pennington

I mean, the types of questions are pretty darn simple. I'm not sure how much one can tell from this test - frankly, the fact that so many do so poorly makes me think more about how dumb some of these 'college graduates' are:

http://walterfootball.com/images/wonderlic1.jpg

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Originally Posted by NamathToCaster (Post 4712148)

Out of a possible 50

1. Tim Tebow - 22

2. Mark Sanchez - 28

3. Greg McElroy - 43

I am pretty sure that MIT's QB this year (and last year and the year before ...) had a great wonderlic score.

Should we sign him up to QB the team?

A qb with a brain and no excuses that are lame.

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Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard (Post 4712152)

Eh, never was a big believer in the Wonderlic

IMHO - tests like the wonderlic are effective at weeding out people by setting minimums.

Example:

Minimum Wonderlic for QB might be X, but Y for a NT.
Minimum 40 time for a WR might be 4.7, but 5.2 for a OL.

Back in the day, there was no wonderlic, but I feel confident stating:
Staubach would have scored very high and Bradshaw would have scored low. Both are in the Hall of Fame.

One of my former PhD students was the
Physics tutor to Vince Young. His comment:

"Dumb as a post".

The wonderlic was accurate that time.

Post reminded me of Mo Claiborne who got like a 4 or something, lol.

I posted about this after I watched the SportsScience broadcast after the Jets drafted McElroy. It's worth reposting and the reason I hope they let this kid play.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6355292

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Sport Science: High-tech QB combine

As April 28 continues to creep closer, the top NFL draft prospects have been put through a series of obstacles in hopes of impressing coaches and scouts at the NFL combine, their university's pro days and in some cases, workouts with specific teams. Though players at each position feel the heat, the pressure is even greater for quarterbacks.

ESPN Sport Science created its own combine designed specifically to test the top college quarterbacks entering the NFL draft. By using cutting-edge technology, the Sport Science Combine not only presents a more in-depth look at the talent each QB possesses but also offers a methodical explanation behind the results.

Greg McElroy

Greg McElroy is known not only for his athletic prowess, but for his book smarts as well. McElroy's Wonderlic score at the NFL combine, 43 out of 50, is the second-highest score ever by a QB. In fact, McElroy, a Rhodes Scholar finalist, has been criticized for perhaps being too smart. (Well, we have to find something to complain about.) Therefore, it should come as no surprise that the Alabama QB excelled at Mind Games, a combined mental and physical challenge designed to test reaction times.

Each QB was asked to swipe infrared beams as they lit up. The average reaction time was 0.67 seconds, comparable to the amount of time it would take to find an open receiver before the pocket collapses. Then they performed the test again, simultaneously answering a series of football-related questions. After the questions were added, average reaction times slowed by 11 hundredths of a second. But McElroy's reaction time actually improved 14 percent, proving that a quick brain is just as important as a strong arm.

"I really liked testing my reaction times while answering questions," McElroy said. "That's something new and unique. You can study, you can do everything you possibly can off the field but once you get on the field, are you reacting fast? Are you playing fast? Because the main thing the coach will tell you do is play fast and play smart and play within yourself, but first of all, play fast, and that's why reaction time is huge."

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Originally Posted by Traitor Jay & the Woodies (Post 4712181)

I wonder how McElroy would do in a West Coast offense. I think that would really suit his strengths.

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Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard (Post 4712152)

Eh, never was a big believer in the Wonderlic

Neither am I, but wouldn't that indicate he has the ability to understand playcalls and their design?

I'm fairly confident he can understand what's going on the field. The only problem from there is can he have that understanding translate into physical ability? Now, obviously that's an enormous part of the game, but I think we could have a rather cerebral QB with McElroy.

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Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard (Post 4712152)

Eh, never was a big believer in the Wonderlic

You've been dating the wrong women. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Mainejet (Post 4712187)

Neither am I, but wouldn't that indicate he has the ability to understand playcalls and their design?

Looking at the sample questions above, no.

I'd love to see an example of some complex NFL plays. I've never really seen anything like that before.

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Originally Posted by Bonhomme Richard (Post 4712193)

Looking at the sample questions above, no.

I'd love to see an example of some complex NFL plays. I've never really seen anything like that before.

That's an excellent idea and I'd be all for it. Unfortunately, the system we currently have is all we have.

And I can't disagree with you answering no to my question, but the facts will only be on display if we put the kid on the field with our starting offense this Sunday.

Sure is an impressive list. :(

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Name                Year        College                Score

Ryan Fitzpatrick2005        Harvard                48

Greg McElroy        2011        Alabama                43

Jason Maas        1999        Oregon                43

Blaine Gabbert        2011        Missouri        42

Drew Henson        2000        Michigan        42

Bruce Eugene        2006        Grambling State        41

Hugh Millen        1986        Washington        41

Darrell Hackney        2006        UAB                40

Alex Smith        2005        Utah                40

There is some value to the test. If there wasn't, they wouldn't do it. I am sure some teams value it more than others. It is just another measurable. They are trying to find out everything they can about these guys.

My only problem is I think there is a difference between being smart and being able to learn. I am sure there are guys who have scored low that have a high ability to learn. And I would be more concerned with a players ability to learn.