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K-Met57 12-13-2012 02:22 PM

Hamilton to the angels
 
thats some line-up...

could open up the market for Dickey, the rangers have to make a move at this point...

JetPotato 12-13-2012 03:37 PM

Trout - Pujols - Hamilton

YIKES.

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite 12-13-2012 03:59 PM

Somewhere, Swisher and his agent are doing backflips...

LockeJET 12-13-2012 05:43 PM

Wow!! Stacked!


Trout
Aybar
Hamilton
Pujols
Morales
Trumbo
Kendrick
Iannetta
Callaspo

BamaJets 12-13-2012 07:33 PM

Stacked lineup indeed.

They lost Haren and Santana, but they got entering-his-prime Tommy Hanson and innings-eater jelly bean blanton. Plus some really good bullpen help in Sean Burnett and Ryan Madson, assuming he comes back healthy.

But they are built to win in the next 3 years. After that all those big contracts -- Weaver, Pujols, Wilson, Wells and now Hamilton -- will be 33, 36, 35, 36 and 35, respectively. Wells has two years left (could be gone with a buyout maybe). But that is looking pretty Yankee-like.

JetPotato 12-13-2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BamaJets (Post 4724477)
Stacked lineup indeed.

They lost Haren and Santana, but they got entering-his-prime Tommy Hanson and innings-eater jelly bean blanton. Plus some really good bullpen help in Sean Burnett and Ryan Madson, assuming he comes back healthy.

But they are built to win in the next 3 years. After that all those big contracts -- Weaver, Pujols, Wilson, Wells and now Hamilton -- will be 33, 36, 35, 36 and 35, respectively. Wells has two years left (could be gone with a buyout maybe). But that is looking pretty Yankee-like.

Tommy Hanson is past his best year already. His velocity has been in rapid decline and he regressed in just about every pitching metric there is for consecutive seasons.

JetsfanfromtheBURGH 12-13-2012 09:28 PM

It's almost unfair. Pittsburgh doesn't stand a chance in MLB

AlwaysGreenAlwaysWhite 12-13-2012 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetPotato (Post 4724562)
Tommy Hanson is past his best year already. His velocity has been in rapid decline and he regressed in just about every pitching metric there is for consecutive seasons.

Agree with this... If he's a SP in baseball when he's 30 I'll eat my hat...

K-Met57 12-14-2012 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsfanfromtheBURGH (Post 4724565)
It's almost unfair. Pittsburgh doesn't stand a chance in MLB

lol your tune has certainly changed...

anyways, everyone has a chance, it just takes a REALLY REALLY good FO to win with limited funds.

JetsfanfromtheBURGH 12-14-2012 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Met57 (Post 4724828)
lol your tune has certainly changed...

anyways, everyone has a chance, it just takes a REALLY REALLY good FO to win with limited funds.

It has changed. I was talking **** in early August lol.

I agree with the FO..... Unfortunately that something the pirates lack mightily in.

Dreamers 12-14-2012 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockeJET (Post 4724379)
Wow!! Stacked!


Trout
Aybar
Hamilton
Pujols
Morales
Trumbo
Kendrick
Iannetta
Callaspo

Both LA teams are well stacked. Kemp and Gonzo may actually be the 2 best players in the game. Handley, Crawford, Either, and Ellis are all pretty good too. Kershaw and Greinke and a solid pen. These two teams can put up 30 run on a good day each.

detjetsfan 12-14-2012 07:23 PM

Just crazy how both LA teams are spending. Hamilton is a great player but no way would I ever give him 5 years - that's asking for trouble.

detjetsfan 12-14-2012 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Met57 (Post 4724100)
thats some line-up...

could open up the market for Dickey, the rangers have to make a move at this point...

I don't understand how the Mets are always in such a hurry to get rid of all their good players. First Reyes last year. This year most Mets fans cry bloody murder about Wright getting a contract. Now they can't wait to get Dickey out of town for some unproven prospects.

Maybe Prokhorov can throw some of that Russian gangster money into the Mets and make them a competitive team again?

K-Met57 12-14-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detjetsfan (Post 4725475)
I don't understand how the Mets are always in such a hurry to get rid of all their good players. First Reyes last year. This year most Mets fans cry bloody murder about Wright getting a contract. Now they can't wait to get Dickey out of town for some unproven prospects.

Maybe Prokhorov can throw some of that Russian gangster money into the Mets and make them a competitive team again?

From your lips...

Dreamers 12-16-2012 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detjetsfan (Post 4725475)
I don't understand how the Mets are always in such a hurry to get rid of all their good players. First Reyes last year. This year most Mets fans cry bloody murder about Wright getting a contract. Now they can't wait to get Dickey out of town for some unproven prospects.

Maybe Prokhorov can throw some of that Russian gangster money into the Mets and make them a competitive team again?

Dickey is old and the METS aren't going to be in contention until they recover from financial ruin. Let someone else pay his old butt more then he is worth. His great season a side he is not all of the sudden going to have a historic career. He is more likely to have a 5.0 ERA then have anther Cy year.

sg3 12-16-2012 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamers (Post 4726284)
Dickey is old and the METS aren't going to be in contention until they recover from financial ruin. Let someone else pay his old butt more then he is worth. His great season a side he is not all of the sudden going to have a historic career. He is more likely to have a 5.0 ERA then have anther Cy year.

RA is 38 and wants a 4 year extension for big bucks. Only a team that thinks they are one starter away from winning it all in 2013 would make such a deal. The Mets' strength is starting pitching even without RA with Harvey and Wheeler in the picture this season. The catcher and more the Jays are apparently offering is an excellent deal for the Mets

On a side note..I read a hilarious article in Saturday's NY Times that lauded the Pinstriper deal for 33 year old Youk as a major step in their getting "younger"

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IHATEDOLPHINS 12-16-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detjetsfan (Post 4725475)
I don't understand how the Mets are always in such a hurry to get rid of all their good players. First Reyes last year. This year most Mets fans cry bloody murder about Wright getting a contract. Now they can't wait to get Dickey out of town for some unproven prospects.

Maybe Prokhorov can throw some of that Russian gangster money into the Mets and make them a competitive team again?

I actually think it's a good move for the Mets to trade him.He's what 38? His stock will never be higher

JetPotato 12-16-2012 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sg3 (Post 4726287)
RA is 38 and wants a 4 year extension for big bucks. Only a team that thinks they are one starter away from winning it all in 2013 would make such a deal. The Mets' strength is starting pitching even without RA with Harvey and Wheeler in the picture this season. The catcher and more the Jays are apparently offering is an excellent deal for the Mets

On a side note..I read a hilarious article in Saturday's NY Times that lauded the Pinstriper deal for 33 year old Youk as a major step in their getting "younger"

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The Dickey trade is going to be a heist in the Mets favor for years to come.

As for your comment on the Yankees, the 1 year stop gap of Youkilis is precisely about getting younger. They don't have anyone to fill the role now, so short term vet contract makes sense. In the past, they would've thrown 3 years at him. You don't just play minor leaguers who aren't ready just for the sake of lowering the average team age. Not sure what you find so funny.

CaliJetsFan 12-16-2012 08:47 PM

not sure what the angels are doing. ya any team could use a bat like hamiltons but they've just created another logjam on their roster. getting rid of hunter opened up a spot for bourjos in LF, putting trumbo in right, and trout in center (or trout in LF, boujos in center), wells as the 4th OF. Defense is gonna be a problem in the OF with hamilton and trumbo....trumbo sucks and hamilton is slowing down and made alot of mistakes last year in the field.

why let hunter go over money supposedly and sign a huge ? for 5 years...doesnt make sense.

they need a 3b badly...maybe package morales or trumbo for a 3b is the next move:confused:

chirorob 12-17-2012 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliJetsFan (Post 4727365)
not sure what the angels are doing. ya any team could use a bat like hamiltons but they've just created another logjam on their roster. getting rid of hunter opened up a spot for bourjos in LF, putting trumbo in right, and trout in center (or trout in LF, boujos in center), wells as the 4th OF. Defense is gonna be a problem in the OF with hamilton and trumbo....trumbo sucks and hamilton is slowing down and made alot of mistakes last year in the field.

why let hunter go over money supposedly and sign a huge ? for 5 years...doesnt make sense.

they need a 3b badly...maybe package morales or trumbo for a 3b is the next move:confused:

Backloaded deal for Hamilton as well. Last 2 years are at 30 million. That + Albert being backloaded is great for next year or 2, but then is going to get tough.


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