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CleatMarks 01-16-2013 07:36 PM

Good article about Erhardt-Perkins system
 
Thought this was a good article if you're not familiar with the system compared to some others. The Jets used this in 2012 and it's been the Patriots staple system during their run...

(yes, Patriots-centric but interesting for the fan )

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...brady-patriots

Johnny Bravo 01-16-2013 07:44 PM

Good article but I stopped at Rich Kotite. :O

RMJK 01-16-2013 07:56 PM

The Jets need to get with the program and emulate the Pats offense but with Jets design. I'd like to see the Jets Offense run it with efficiency, no huddle etc instead of clutzing around making a lot of mistakes.

CleatMarks 01-16-2013 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMJK (Post 4780911)
The Jets need to get with the program and emulate the Pats offense but with Jets design. I'd like to see the Jets Offense run it with efficiency, no huddle etc instead of clutzing around making a lot of mistakes.

I think that's part of the point. It's the flexibility of system that lends itself to progressive uses. It's not so much a philosophy of attack such as the West Coast. It's an organizational system that lends itself to a variety of designs.

pcola 01-16-2013 08:13 PM

Yeah I remember we were going to run an up tempo hurry up offense.

Problem was by the time the play call got to Sanchez, the play clock was running out.

JetPotato 01-16-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleatMarks (Post 4780894)
Thought this was a good article if you're not familiar with the system compared to some others. The Jets used this in 2012 and it's been the Patriots staple system during their run...

(yes, Patriots-centric but interesting for the fan )

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...brady-patriots

That's not quite true.

Confusing, because it sounds a lot like the Erhardt Offense, but in 2012, the Jets actually ran the Earhart Offense (as in Amelia).

They're actually quite different

jetsmetsrangers 01-16-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetPotato (Post 4780957)
That's not quite true.

Confusing, because it sounds a lot like the Erhardt Offense, but in 2012, the Jets actually ran the Earhart Offense (as in Amelia).

They're actually quite different




LOL!......good stuff!

klecko73 01-16-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetPotato (Post 4780957)
That's not quite true.

Confusing, because it sounds a lot like the Erhardt Offense, but in 2012, the Jets actually ran the Earhart Offense (as in Amelia).

They're actually quite different

Yeap, crash after take-off!

sameoldjets 01-17-2013 06:56 AM

the problems on offense seem to be a lack of knowledge about how the play is actually supposed to work. it took way too much time to get the play called and then executed. is sanchez the biggest issue here? right now, probably. how many times was there absolutely no concern for the clock running down or the slowness of plays in two minute drills etc. it seems like sanchez doesn't know how to process plays in a timely fashion. this is troubling because it's almost impossible to teach people to think faster.

eaglenj 01-17-2013 08:01 AM

Great article.

We are so far away from this it isnt even funny.

That being said, the key is continuity....in addition to finding our QB and OC we need to be grooming assistants to fill roles in case coaches leave here. That is what he Pats have been abele to do and why they have been able to keep the same system/terminology for so long.

JoeJam Football 01-17-2013 09:01 AM

Maybe Sparano tried to install this system with the Jets this year but he was obviously a very poor teacher. Also with a different group of receivers almost every game all learning this for the first time I can see why it wasn't successful.
If Sanchez got to the line quicker he might be able to read the defense better and determine who might be the best receiver to throw it too. If Sanchez was also learning this for the first time - which I think he was - then there was almost no way this system was gonna work.

I like the system because the QB needs brains and repetition rather than athletic ability. Sanchez might not have the brains for this system or he simply might need more time in it. But the right QB in this system can last 15 years. RG3 will never last 7 years the way he plays. Most of these new read option QBs won't be in the league long because of the punishment they will take. Greg McElroy might be a better option for the Jets if they continue to try and run this system.

section314 01-17-2013 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetPotato (Post 4780957)
That's not quite true.

Confusing, because it sounds a lot like the Erhardt Offense, but in 2012, the Jets actually ran the Earhart Offense (as in Amelia).

They're actually quite different

Good stuff.:D Unfortunately, we Found Sanchez.:(

LIJetsFan 01-17-2013 09:42 AM

Loved the article, thanks for posting. Problem is now I'm more depressed about our team. With no QB and no OC how are we ever going to get up to speed?

I'm hoping for Khan for GM, somone from an elite organization who can built from the draft out rather than the FA do it now approach. I didn't think so before but after reading this article I'm comming to believe we might have to go into rebuild mode.

chirorob 01-17-2013 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcola (Post 4780936)
Yeah I remember we were going to run an up tempo hurry up offense.

Problem was by the time the play call got to Sanchez, the play clock was running out.

Look, you can use any system you want.

If Forest Gump with Sunglasses is calling the plays, and Corky Romano is your quarterback, they aren't going to work.

chirorob 01-17-2013 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CleatMarks (Post 4780894)
Thought this was a good article if you're not familiar with the system compared to some others. The Jets used this in 2012 and it's been the Patriots staple system during their run...

(yes, Patriots-centric but interesting for the fan )

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...brady-patriots

Great article by the way. An actual football-themed article. Wish there were more of these, and less "I am the next GM of the Jets" articles.

petejet 01-17-2013 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chirorob (Post 4781339)
Look, you can use any system you want.

If Forest Gump with Sunglasses is calling the plays, and Corky Romano is your quarterback, they aren't going to work.

Actually Forest Gump was pretty good when it came to football. :P

SONNY WERBLIN 01-17-2013 02:46 PM

As good a coach as BB is, he seems to owe almost all of his success to his predecessors in New England and, of course, Tom Brady.

While Perkins and Earhardt can take credit for the offensive schemes, the 3-4 two gap D the Pats run (don't say it's a 4-3, Ninkovich is labeled DE but has the assignments of an OLB), is essentially the same D Chuck Fairbanks brought to New England (and the NFL) from the Oklahoma Sooners.


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