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ctjetfan 01-18-2013 04:18 PM

The Fat man "Idzik is Tannenbaum" nothing has changed
 
With such contempt in his voice!! You'd think he would want to give a look at Idzik's credentials before he starts running his mouth...

Joe W. Namath 01-18-2013 04:20 PM

Its known idzik is more of a cap guy then he is a personal guy. Is he Tanny? no. But the comparisons are fair.

ryan10 01-18-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath (Post 4783503)
Its known idzik is more of a cap guy then he is a personal guy. Is he Tanny? no. But the comparisons are fair.

not a good comparison to tanny..not close...
hes just not a cap guy read his bio..also good possibility he will bring in a talent/scout guy from sea

John Idzik begins his sixth season with the Seahawks after joining the club on February 16, 2007. With Seattle, Idzik oversees player negotiations, the team’s compliance with the NFL salary cap, player personnel transactions, all football operations budgets, staff and team contracts, team travel and most aspects of the day-to-day football operations while also remaining active in player evaluations. In addition, he serves as the club’s primary liaison to the NFL Office and represents the club at League meetings.

Prior to joining the Seahawks, Idzik spent three seasons as Senior Director of Football Operations for the Arizona Cardinals, helping to build an eventual NFC champion. Idzik entered the NFL in 1993 with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He spent 11 years with the Buccaneers, first as a Pro Personnel Assistant and then was elevated to Director of Football Administration in 1996 and Assistant General Manager in 2001. Prior to his tenure with the Buccaneers, Idzik spent the 1991-92 seasons as a graduate assistant coach at Duke University, where he assisted with the offensive line and running backs. In 1990 he was the offensive backfield coach for the Aberdeen Oilers (Scotland) of the British American Football League. Idzik’s first coaching assignment came in 1982 as receivers coach at the State University of New York at Buffalo.

Raised in a football family, Idzik’s father, also John, was the head coach of the Aberdeen club after serving as an NFL assistant coach for the Miami Dolphins, Baltimore Colts, Philadelphia Eagles, and N.Y. Jets. They became one of the NFL’s few father-son Super Bowl champions in 2003 when the younger Idzik’s Buccaneers won Super Bowl XXXVII, as his father was the offensive backfield coach of the Super Bowl V champion Baltimore Colts.

A native of Detroit, Idzik graduated with magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa honors from Dartmouth College in 1982 earning a bachelor’s degree in mathematics, where he also played wide receiver for the Ivy League Champion Big Green. He later earned a master’s degree in liberal studies from Duke University in 1992.

Dirtstar 01-18-2013 04:22 PM

Francessa.

Cimini.

Hubbuch.

SAR I.

adpz 01-18-2013 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtstar (Post 4783513)
Francessa.

Cimini.

Hubbuch.

SAR I.

Lol.

JetFuel 01-18-2013 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtstar (Post 4783513)
Francessa.

Cimini.

Hubbuch.

SAR I.

The all amercian douche team

RMJK 01-18-2013 04:30 PM

If we hired God , the fatman would have something negative to say. He just hates the Jets.

Kentucky Jet 01-18-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath (Post 4783503)
Its known idzik is more of a cap guy then he is a personal guy. Is he Tanny? no. But the comparisons are fair.

Believe what you want but he did spend 11 years on personnel issues & evaluations for the Bucs. Just sayin'...... I mean why let facts get in the way of ripping the Jets!

Big L 01-18-2013 04:32 PM

Why listen to the Fat Guy anyway?

norm428 01-18-2013 04:33 PM

Can we please just ignore that fat bastard? We all know he will never approve of anything the Jets do, so why bother giving him any attention?

augustiniak 01-18-2013 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kentucky Jet (Post 4783540)
Believe what you want but he did spend 11 years on personnel issues & evaluations for the Bucs. Just sayin'...... I mean why let facts get in the way of ripping the Jets!

more than anything, i have faith that he understands the importance of relying on your scouts and not the hc to make the picks. the gm does not have to be the most knowledgeable personnel guy but if he uses his resources he can make excellent picks. tanny had good scouts but kept trading his picks and letting rex and sanchez make them. that's the difference.

southside 01-18-2013 04:34 PM

Can someone cue 32green's favorite gif?

revischrist 01-18-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe W. Namath (Post 4783503)
Its known idzik is more of a cap guy then he is a personal guy. Is he Tanny? no. But the comparisons are fair.

Its pathetic that you would defend the fat man. He is clearly trying to get under the skin of Jets fans.

bullitt929 01-18-2013 04:36 PM

Persons with an agenda issue opinions that are utterly without value, because those opinions are borne of the agenda and not the facts. It is of course well known that one of Francesa's leading agendas is his hatred of all things Jet.

Flaming Mo 01-18-2013 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JetFuel (Post 4783530)
The all amercian douche team

:D Now that had me cracking up...

Apache 51 01-18-2013 04:37 PM

Fat doosh gets so amped up about the Jets, I love it.

John McClane 01-18-2013 04:38 PM

Ah, yeah, Francessa is flat out lying about Idzik's background. Saying he is the SAME as Tanny and Rex is calling all shots. Fatty knows how to push Jet fan buttons... create panic.

Dirtstar 01-18-2013 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southside (Post 4783550)
Can someone cue 32green's favorite gif?

this one?? :dunno:



http://www.gifsoup.com/view5/2569192...-chicken-o.gif

canadianjetsfan 01-18-2013 04:39 PM

Think whatever you want about Francessa, but the truth hurts and Francessa has done nothing but voice the reality of the situation which is that nothing has changed.
Thanks Woody, have a nice week end up in the hamptons.

parcellsguy 01-18-2013 04:39 PM

Rapid Reaction: Is Idzik a good hire?
By Rich Cimini

Quick takeaways on the news that the Jets have decided to hire former Seattle Seahawks vice president of football administration John Idzik as their new general manager:

1. What they did: The Jets veered off course. They set out trying to find a GM with deep roots in scouting and personnel, but they chose a longtime executive who made his bones on the business side, dealing mostly with salary-cap management and contract negotiations. The Jets will present Idzik as a hybrid -- he attended personnel meetings in Seattle -- but that's not his area of expertise. Like former GM Mike Tannenbaum, he's a capologist making the crossover. They needed a leader who sees the world from a scout's perspective, not an executive who learned his football in a room.

2. Narrow view: This was a shortsighted decision. Owner Woody Johnson wanted someone to clean up the messy cap situation ($19.4 million over) and the number of bloated contracts. The real problem is a thin roster. One of the candidates told me the Jets need to replace 12 starters, conservatively. Yes, the Jets have contract issues, but they're in this cap predicament because of poor talent evaluations, overvaluing players such as Mark Sanchez, Santonio Holmes and David Harris. They're paying Holmes like a top-10 receiver; any personnel man worth his stopwatch will tell you he's not even in the top 20.

3. Outside the box: This move smacks of the 1980s Jets, when they always left the league scratching its head because of against-the-grain decisions. Seven teams were in the GM market. The first six opted for executives with personnel backgrounds; the Jets went the other way. Are they smarter than everyone else? As one longtime GM told me, "This isn't the time to put a cap guy in charge."

4. The Rex factor: The big question is, what does this mean for Rex Ryan? In the short term, it could mean more influence in personnel matters. Like Tannenbaum, Idzik probably will lean heavily on Ryan for input. Ryan can pick defensive linemen (Muhammad Wilkerson), but that's about it. We all know he has a blind spot when it comes to offense. He pushed to draft Sanchez in 2009 when the scouts wanted Josh Freeman. This sets up a potentially dangerous situation: The coach should coach, the GM should pick the players -- except, in this case, the GM has never picked players. How do they fill the void? Maybe assistant GM Scott Cohen sticks around in a personnel role.


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