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LeonM 02-10-2013 04:36 PM
The Jets should target Percy Harvin
 
If I was running an NFL team and this guy was available through trade. I am going right after him. Percy Harvin is one of the most dangerous game breaking receivers in the entire league. He's in a class by himself. The reports are that The Minnesota Vikings are going to unload him and that the asking price is supposedly a 2nd round pick.

This relates to the Jets but any team with a brain would go after Harvin and he's worth a first round pick. I know that the Jets tried to trade up for him a few years back.

The Jets lack play makers and game breakers and that's exactly what Percy Harvin is. The Jets haven't had a player like him in ages. I understand that the Jets have a supposed cap problem but I'd deal for him and make it work. Harvin is dangerous with the ball is in hands and he's a great weapon for any offense and any quarterback(see Christian Ponder). This is a guy to take a risk on and break the bank for.

It's hard for me to believe that he'd only be available for a 2nd round pick. That's a steal and teams should be lining up to get him.

McGinley 02-10-2013 04:39 PM
Maybe if the Vikings throw in a **** ton of Excedrin into the deal, sure.

DBarrett=all<3 02-10-2013 04:40 PM
I disagree. Harvin is a great example, in my opinion, of a guy you can't win with because he is so good that you can build an offense around what he can do, but unfortunately he is so often injured that once you have built this offense, he leaves you hanging once he is out with the inevitable injury. Injury-prone players are like an albatross around the neck of a team. You pay a good deal for them, you get little or nothing in return, and worse still, you cling to this idea that they will at some point return to a full season of health and perform at potential, which is far from given. This inhibits progress.

Harvin is a great player but we cannot be giving up draft picks and in my opinion he is not worth a 2, especially from our perspective as a team in a process of rebuilding the roster.

kmsurfs2000 02-10-2013 04:42 PM
i would give a 2 for him in a heartbeat-he is a game breaker and jets have NONE on offense-a second rounder is nothing for him -jets will NOT get a player as skilled as him with their second round pick-he will end up with pats colts or skins

Dreamers 02-10-2013 04:49 PM
pass

BrowningNagle 02-10-2013 05:01 PM
Harvin would be a huge playmaker for the Jets....he does get injured a lot but for a 2d rder its worth the risk as hes still young. He would instantly be a big time upgrade and someone a DC would have to gameplan for....do it.

eaglenj 02-10-2013 05:03 PM
Theres some excellent issues in play here.

First off, a deal for Harvin as mentioned (for a draft pick) is exactly what led to us to have few draft picks in the past couple years and have some very expensive veteran players.

You can say "there is no one of harvins skill level in the 2nd round" and you would be 100% correct, but that isnt the way the NFL works. If you trade for Harvin you are also trading for the right to PAY him a big contract. What would a 2nd round pick in the 2013 draft be worth if they made $8 million a year instead of $1.5? Trading a pick for harvin, for a team in the jets situation is not smart team management.

Now the better question would be what about looking to the vikings for a deal for Revis and have harvin included? Now that "contract risk" is taken out of the equation as you are trading on 2014 UFA for another. The Vikings have $9 million attached to antione winfield that comes off the books after 2013, so they could in essence use that money for Revis in 2014 and "lessen the contract blow".

Or, even better for the jets, what about sending Cro straight up for marvin? Again we lose the contract risk as Cro comes off the books, we keep our draft picks, and since we are also in a similar position as the vikings (at WR not CB) holmes will come off the books for 2014 and we can use that money to pay harvin and then be able to hoepfuly still sign revis.

The vikings are a very interesting trade partner, and they can say what they want, but where theres smoke theres fire and harvin and the coach (who they like a lot) do not get along. However trading a draft pick for a 1 year rental who we then have to pay big money to is definitely not the way to go.

Dimitri_0515 02-10-2013 05:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by McGinley (Post 4809719)
Maybe if the Vikings throw in a **** ton of Excedrin into the deal, sure.
You have become my favorite poster on here.

PatsFanTX 02-10-2013 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by McGinley (Post 4809719)
Maybe if the Vikings throw in a **** ton of Excedrin into the deal, sure.
Classic. :yes:

Well played.

CanadaSteve 02-10-2013 05:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eaglenj (Post 4809730)
Theres some excellent issues in play here.

First off, a deal for Harvin as mentioned (for a draft pick) is exactly what led to us to have few draft picks in the past couple years and have some very expensive veteran players.

You can say "there is no one of harvins skill level in the 2nd round" and you would be 100% correct, but that isnt the way the NFL works. If you trade for Harvin you are also trading for the right to PAY him a big contract. What would a 2nd round pick in the 2013 draft be worth if they made $8 million a year instead of $1.5? Trading a pick for harvin, for a team in the jets situation is not smart team management.

Now the better question would be what about looking to the vikings for a deal for Revis and have harvin included? Now that "contract risk" is taken out of the equation as you are trading on 2014 UFA for another. The Vikings have $9 million attached to antione winfield that comes off the books after 2013, so they could in essence use that money for Revis in 2014 and "lessen the contract blow".

Or, even better for the jets, what about sending Cro straight up for marvin? Again we lose the contract risk as Cro comes off the books, we keep our draft picks, and since we are also in a similar position as the vikings (at WR not CB) holmes will come off the books for 2014 and we can use that money to pay harvin and then be able to hoepfuly still sign revis.

The vikings are a very interesting trade partner, and they can say what they want, but where theres smoke theres fire and harvin and the coach (who they like a lot) do not get along. However trading a draft pick for a 1 year rental who we then have to pay big money to is definitely not the way to go.
This makes FAR too much sense.....this will pop a few brains here.

The Ego Trip 02-10-2013 05:32 PM
I believe his migraine problem has been taken care of. If that's the case, he shouldn't be considered as injury prone as some of you guys are making him out to be.
This last season was the first one where he had to miss significant time, and there were even reports suggesting it was more because of his attitude and not the severity of the injury.

Ray Ray19 02-10-2013 05:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eaglenj (Post 4809730)
Theres some excellent issues in play here.

First off, a deal for Harvin as mentioned (for a draft pick) is exactly what led to us to have few draft picks in the past couple years and have some very expensive veteran players.

You can say "there is no one of harvins skill level in the 2nd round" and you would be 100% correct, but that isnt the way the NFL works. If you trade for Harvin you are also trading for the right to PAY him a big contract. What would a 2nd round pick in the 2013 draft be worth if they made $8 million a year instead of $1.5? Trading a pick for harvin, for a team in the jets situation is not smart team management.

Now the better question would be what about looking to the vikings for a deal for Revis and have harvin included? Now that "contract risk" is taken out of the equation as you are trading on 2014 UFA for another. The Vikings have $9 million attached to antione winfield that comes off the books after 2013, so they could in essence use that money for Revis in 2014 and "lessen the contract blow".

Or, even better for the jets, what about sending Cro straight up for marvin? Again we lose the contract risk as Cro comes off the books, we keep our draft picks, and since we are also in a similar position as the vikings (at WR not CB) holmes will come off the books for 2014 and we can use that money to pay harvin and then be able to hoepfuly still sign revis.

The vikings are a very interesting trade partner, and they can say what they want, but where theres smoke theres fire and harvin and the coach (who they like a lot) do not get along. However trading a draft pick for a 1 year rental who we then have to pay big money to is definitely not the way to go.
Good post, agree with everything here, but a team like the Jets would not be in play to trade a first round pick for a player like Harvin, I'd be confident they either know, or would know the issue with Harvin, and would be pretty sure this would be leveraged during any negotiation for the player.

I'd be very much for a play at Harvin, even trading a player, Cro, Kyle Wilson? in any deal...

revischrist 02-10-2013 05:44 PM
We cannot trade our 2nd for him this year. Its too high. Plus I would be very happy starting the year with Holmes, Braylon, Hill and Kerly at WR (with possibly Jordan White developing as an option as well). That group would be 10 times better than the crap we had for most of the year (Post Holmes injury and pre-braylon).

I rather build this team through the draft and make some smaller moves to plug the holes left by the likes of Bart Scott/Pace/Thomas/Keller etc..

Hopefully, some of the young guys (demario/Allen/Bush/Billal/White/Coples) take the next step and we hit on a couple of draft picks. If that happens we could be a playoff team (assuming we can find a way to get average QB play--- a big question mark) and if things don't work out at QB/developing kids we didn't mortgage the future in the process and get another high draft pick to build with next year.

Savage69 02-10-2013 05:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by revischrist (Post 4809772)
We cannot trade our 2nd for him this year. Its too high. Plus I would be very happy starting the year with Holmes, Braylon, Hill and Kerly at WR (with possibly Jordan White developing as an option as well). That group would be 10 times better than the crap we had for most of the year (Post Holmes injury and pre-braylon).

I rather build this team through the draft and make some smaller moves to plug the holes left by the likes of Bart Scott/Pace/Thomas/Keller etc..

Hopefully, some of the young guys (demario/Allen/Bush/Billal/White/Coples) take the next step and we hit on a couple of draft picks. If that happens we could be a playoff team (assuming we can find a way to get average QB play--- a big question mark) and if things don't work out at QB/developing kids we didn't mortgage the future in the process and get another high draft pick to build with next year.
+1 But what if they trade Revis:eek: You would need a name change No??

Apache 51 02-10-2013 05:50 PM
Jets have enough of their own headaches.

Nike 02-10-2013 05:56 PM
if the jets acquired a guy like harvin i think he might be one of a short list of players who might be able to help sanchez resurrect his career.

wrs--- harvin holmes edwards kerley hill or add holmes as part of the trade package.

PatsFanTX 02-10-2013 06:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nike (Post 4809784)
if the jets acquired a guy like harvin i think he might be one of a short list of players who might be able to help sanchez resurrect his career.
Just curious, how would Percy Harvin fix the following:

1) Sanchez's ability to read a defense.

2) Improve his decision making skills.

3) Eliminate all his INT's and fumbles.

4) And most importantly, improve his accuracy?

Ray Ray19 02-10-2013 06:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PatsFanTX (Post 4809787)
Just curious, how would Percy Harvin fix the following:

1) Sanchez's ability to read a defense.

2) Improve his decision making skills.

3) Eliminate all his INT's and fumbles.

4) And most importantly, improve his accuracy?
5) STFU Troll, and stop hijacking every thread with your bull****!

Dimitri_0515 02-10-2013 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PatsFanTX (Post 4809787)
Just curious, how would Percy Harvin fix the following:

1) Sanchez's ability to read a defense.

2) Improve his decision making skills.

3) Eliminate all his INT's and fumbles.

4) And most importantly, improve his accuracy?
Tom Brady is not clutch in the playoffs

Nike 02-10-2013 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PatsFanTX (Post 4809787)
Just curious, how would Percy Harvin fix the following:

1) Sanchez's ability to read a defense.

2) Improve his decision making skills.

3) Eliminate all his INT's and fumbles.

4) And most importantly, improve his accuracy?
first off he would improve field position on kick returns.

he would add a dimension to the offense that sanchez has never seen here.

when sanchez had edwards holmes and cotchery he did pretty well.

harvin is a route runner and playmaker and battles for the ball.

harvin a special player might bring out the best or better in sanchez.


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