He's going to be a disaster in MM offense... Terrible fit.
Yes, it's a tragedy. It's even a possibility - if handled differently back in 2010 - that Sanchez wouldn't be in this exact condition, in this situation... who knows.
but it is what is now. And that's over.
To answer your question:
I think Mornhinweg is definitely higher up there than Schotty and Sparano in terms of developing QBs or at least getting guys to play over their heads. Don't think there's any debate in that.
He definitely did a good job making unheralded or middling QBs like Jeff Garcia, AJ Feely, and Kevin Kolb look competent. He struggled with Harrington in his lone season together in Detroit, but maybe Harrington was doomed from the start. He was a pretty massive bust in the pros.
I still believe that's an above average track record, one that is reputable enough to give one last desperation shot for Sanchez, but I think part of that is attributed to the fact that Sanchez is still owed guaranteed money. Sanchez also needs somewhat viable competition this year (and I'm not talking Brady Quinn or McElroy). If Garrard is truly healthy, that'll suffice and I'm sure we can sign him without any serious guaranteed money due to his prior health concerns.
I'm certainly not optimistic about Sanchez's chances, but you're right in that Mornhinweg is one of a handful of coaches that could pull the rabbit out of the hat. I just don't think he is close to that Harbaugh/Roman tier, however.
I am not sold on this move. Garrard hasn't played in forever and has had major injuries. In his prime, yes, he is a better option than Sanchez, but now, he feels like fake competition for Mark. I'm assuming this is not the only competition that will be brought in because it is laughable if that is the case.
Healthy, he is a slight upgrade over Sanchez in that he won't turn it over much, but you aren't going anywhere with 35 year-old Garrard at the helm. If the idea is to be crummy next season with the hope of landing a really good QB prospect in next year's draft, this move sort of makes sense then.
I hope Sanchez can change and become a great QB and take us to the SB and win it. That is why we play the game. To merely get to the AFCCG is not enough. IMO I doubt Mark can get us to and win a SB no matter who the OC is or how much talent we have surrounding him. We have read all the excuses here for Mark. The man is an adult. He gets paid to win! No excuses are necessary if he does not win!
You guys are missing what I'm saying. It's not that Mark is unequivocally done as a quarterback. It's that he's future with the New Jets is unequivocally done. You have to understand why that's a reality.
Sanchez is horrible and has more turnovers than any Qb in football the last two years.
Yes, as sad as it may be any minimally viable jag QB's are legit competition.[/QUOTE]
Sad but so very true Fish
With all that guaranteed money, a monstrously prohibitive cap hit and a desperate hope that the new OC and QB coach can rehab Sanchez …..maybe he stays till 2014
On the other hand how can we possibly START that POS at home at Met Life.
Fans booing their own team ……televised ……not such a good idea!!!!!
All I'm saying is considering all that and how Sanchez is most likely a Jet in '13, due to his contract/cap hit, lets see what Mornhenwig, a proven, competent OC/developer of QBs, can do. If he sux, he's gone. The Jets aren't going to the SB this season.
I've suggested going after Foles, if Mornhenwig endorses him, since he knows him and his abilities better than anyone, including Reid. Why spend a 2nd round pick on a QB in the draft if your OC already has coached Foles.
I will question how much the screen was/is practiced and what percentage of the playbook plays are based off of it. In the 4 years that Rex has been coach , I might be exaggerating but if they called 2 dozen screens it seems like a lot. I also got the feel that the screens in general were never quite setup effectively, almost that the RB's never cleared the LOS and the plays were more like laterals than actual screens.
MM's offense should ramp up those numbers extensively and thus also drive the practice reps up accordingly. Like anything else if you don't practice it and use it often it can become a problem.
Do you think Cavanaugh helped Sanchez ??? I don't .
Do you think Sanchez was surrounded by great offensive talent ?? I don't.
Again Sanchez may be all the things his critics here say he is( inaccurate, gunshy, a turnover machine, poor arm , can't read defenses). But , maybe, just maybe he was never developed and utilized in an offensive system that could truly help him and the Jets have a real offense, one that Rex was so unwilling to unleash.
Hey if Idzik/Woody want to cut bait now go right ahead. I'm just guessing with his '13 contract/cap hit he'll be here for '13. So see what happens. Have I said anything about starting him? Giving him a new contract? No. Just see what happens.
It's with you for life.
New Guy -- "...Who's that?"
Charles from Accounting -- "That's Bill. He blasted a secretary once".
Next time Bill so much as looks at an intern... look out. It affects everyone's opinion and perception. That guy can't be trusted to keep his pen out of the company ink. That's fcking tattooed on his forehead.
...Mark tanked. Big time. The biggest franchise implosion I can recall in decades. That sh*t isn't going anywhere. It's there waiting for him. He'll have to take the Jets to the playoffs, nay, the AFFCCG every year, for the rest of his career - to dispel any chance of this team wanting to move on.
It's over. It's not a matter of "if", it's just how long the FO can keep the fire under control.
Some of you have short term memories.
Let me spell it out for you. It doesn't matter who, what, when and where. It just is. Sanchez mentally blew an ACL - Lattimore style. It's just a waiting game now.