My biggest problem with Jones isn't even the athleticism, it's the fact he gets dominated in the run game.
@seniorbowl: Cannot dispute J Jones/UGA numbers production, but big night at Mizzou was against backup OT. SEC not loaded with major league OT's in 2012.
@seniorbowl: Go to http://t.co/Y71wI8ZQz3 and read profile/report on J Jones. Some of success came due to 34 scheme and freeing up on air for sacks. IMO.
@seniorbowl: @seniorbowl only stating opinions with some facts to support. Not saying J Jones won't be a pro starter in 3-4, just not a top 10 pick.
Mingo's draft stock is rising steadily according to the usual talking heads at Nfl.com
Right now I'd still prefer Jarvis Jones on account of his elite level production and more polished passrush moves. But I wouldn't be heartbroken either with Mingo
I'm a big UGA fan, have watched most of Jarvis Jones' play for the last two years. I love the guy. He's really fun to watch because he is capable of blowing up offenses.
BUT, he had a strech of games this year where he was a bit dinged up and completely disappeared. Completely.
That type of performance reminds me of John Abraham. Incredible talent, and you have to cross your fingers that he can bring it at 100% when he shows up, because there seems to be no middle ground.
It's pretty clear what Jarvis Jones is... And I think he'll succeed in the NFL. The problem is, I see his absolute best case scenario as touching 10 sacks. He's a football player which is important, but the problem is that he lacks that explosive step around the edge. He's very strong for his size and that will never be a problem for him, but the lack of speed around the edge is going to hurt bad...
And the neck seems like a non-issue... He's not completely unathletic either. Just lack some real explosion up the field.
Mingo is interesting and I would take him over Jarvis but Mingo is scary as hell. Mingo's floor is a huge bust because he doesn't seem violent enough for the sport. Mingo's ceiling is incredibly high because of the athleticism and he seems to have a good head on his shoulders. Typically the smarter players figure out how to become good.
Jones is solid against the run despite his size. He brings far more against the run than someone like Mingo does.
But again, Jones just lacks that first step which would give him that 10+ sack upside. Instead, I see his best year topping out at 10 sacks.
look for 29, usually on the ground or being pushed like hes on iceskates.
They ran at him all day because he is weak at the point of attack.
That said I still want either Warmack or Star at 9 if one of them falls which is probably going to be the case. Jets need a surefire blockbuster hit with the #9 pick and to me all these OLB's have major question marks.
@Gil_Brandt: Going to drop Jarvis Jones out of first round. Not sure he's a first-round talent. #NFLDraft.
@RUSSLANDE: @Gil_Brandt - That is what I have been saying about Jarvis Jones since October. Jarvis Jones is a solid late 2nd / high 3rd round gamble.
@Gil_Brandt: Since Jarvis tweet, have been called over-the-hill, idiot, much worse. Some have threatened unfollows. Some have told me to "stop flexing."
@Gil_Brandt: Would have thought I was the one throwing basketballs at players' heads.
Jarvis Jones -- health concerns and all -- is projected by many draft pundits to be one of the first 10 players off the board later this month.
An outlier of this bunch is NFL.com senior analyst Gil Brandt, who caused a stir on Twitter on Tuesday with his latest assessment of the Georgia star.
We decided to give Gil a call because a) we always enjoy hearing stories about the construction of the Dallas Cowboys in the "Mad Men" era and b) we thought more insight was necessary on why Gil is so down on Jones' NFL prospects.
"I just see him as a one-position player," Brandt said over the phone. "I see him as a guy that's going to play with his hand on the ground and he's going to try hard, and he's going to come close to making sacks, but he's not going to have 14.5 like he did at Georgia."
After choosing to sit out workouts at the NFL Scouting Combine, Jones underwhelmed at Georgia's pro day.
"I don't think he can play in space. I don't think he can be a 3-4 'backer that can drop into space and be effective," Brandt went on. "When you see him come from one side and try to chase down a play, he doesn't have that speed that you really need to have to play that position when he's chasing a guy.
"I think he's one of those guys that when you're rushing the passer, he's going to almost get there, but not quite."
Brandt added that he he's "probably to harsh" on Jones and added that he believes the linebacker will come off the board in the first round. He's just not Gil's flavor of ice cream.
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@nfl: .@MoveTheSticks says Jarvis Jones is still a 1st Rd. pick, despite 'poor workouts': http://t.co/P2JDRkesOL #NFLDraft