I'd be very happy with Warmack in the first, Hopkins in the second, and Collins in the 3rd. That would be a perfect haul for the Jets. Ertz in the second would be good too.
I like Geno, but IF he was automatic, IF he was a sureshot bluechip QB, IF he had huge upside... KC wouldn't have signed Smith. JAX would have told Gabbert to stuff himself. OAK wouldn't be talking to Matt Flynn. CLE wouldn't have signed Campbell. ARZ wouldn't be linked to Palmer, BUF wouldn't have just signed Kolb etc etc etc
Seriously, wake up. It's entirely possible he free falls into the twenties like Rodgers did. Or Quinn.
We need too many starters to wait on Geno to develop, and be our 5th QB, and we cannot afford to miss on our first pick.
No point in drafting a QB without a LG and RG anyway, lol, the poor kid would get ruined and we'd be right where we are now in a year or so.
Solidify that offensive line with this pick, shape the rest of the team behind and around it.
I hope Geno is there at #9, so we can trade down :) #1 qb in the draft some team behind the Jets may really want him.. Because after him at qb everyone else is 2nd round talent.. If hes not there at 9 there is really no point to trade down because we wont get much out of it..
Safe pick that will contribute right away and be a pro bowl guard for us for the next 10 years.
Several? More like a few, and that'd be a terrible value pick at 6. Teams are picking in the top 10 for a reason. You don't lose 10 games due to bad guard play. Plugging a new OG in will not change the teams success really.
The Jets have real holes. OLB, QB, 2 Safety Slots, and a #1 WR. We have much bigger needs.
I'm well aware that Geno isn't a "sure thing" otherwise KC would run that card up to the podium in a heartbeat ala the Colts with Luck last year.
If we're sitting around waiting for the next Andrew Luck, then I guess I'll see you in 2030. And let's pray to God that we have the #1 pick that year. Otherwise, we won't have a chance in hell of drafting him.
This team isn't doing dick anytime soon without a legit QB.
There's no guarantee that we'll be in position to draft Bridgewater next year and I'm not buying the Manziel hype train for a second. When the hell was the last time that a 6 foot nothing, 200 lb soaking wet QB went in the 1st round, much less the Top 5? Don't even mention Vick, who ran a 4.3 and had an absolute cannon for an arm. Manziel possesses neither of these traits.
And what makes guys like Boyd, Carr, etc better than the EJ Manuel's and Mike Glennon's of this draft class?
I have no idea where people get this line of thinking of "pass on a QB this year, next years class is so much better".
Based on what exactly?
1 - that's a lot of critical huffing and puffing, but C'MON MAN... it's definitely telling when every. single. QB. needy. team. decides to make positional moves in that department before the draft. For you to discount that, and be all "well blah blah, bad teams, blah blah 30 years for the next luck" is just being incredibly naive and belligerent.
Think about it. No one is behaving as though their QB of the future MIGHT be in this daft. No one. Not JAX, Not KC, Not OAK, Not BUF, no one.
And I like Geno, but thems are the facts.
2 - It's not about passing on QBs this year for next year, it's about the state of affairs right now. We don't know what the hell's going on with our O, our WRs, our current QBs. It's just not a great time to draft a top end signal caller. We're not set up to groom and boom. I know you understand this, but you're on this Geno high right now, and you need to come back to earth.
I'm not worried about the best pick for "this year".
2013 is going to be all about rebuilding or retooling or whatever the hell you want to call it. Basically, we aren't contending for a championship.
I'm all about 2014 and beyond.
I'm not even in any hurry to cast Geno into the fire if we draft him. Let him hold the clipboard behind Sanchez and Garrard for a year for all I care.
This teams QB situation is absolutely SH*TASTIC and if the consensus #1 QB in the draft falls into your lap, I don't see how you can pass.
As I've said before, I don't think Geno will ever be an "elite" QB on par with the Brady's, Manning's and Aaron Rodgers' of the league, but I think he can absolutely be an effective, Top 15 QB in the mold of a Matt Schaub or Matt Hasselbeck circa his Seattle days. Which is more than this team has had since the '02 version of Pennington.
Not to mention that he's pretty much an ideal fit for the WCO that we want to run. Smart, accurate, mobile, good arm, and is also highly touted for his fierce competitive nature and willingness to hold teammates accountable. Holy sh*t, what a breath of fresh air that would be.
Hey, if Smith and Warmack are both on the board at #9 and we decide to go with Warmack, you definitely won't hear any complaints out of me.
But Geno absolutely deserves the utmost consideration.
He deserves consideration. And he'll get it... but it's unlikely (IMO) that he'll be the best player available. He's a fringe 1st round QB. If he's groomed right, like the way Rodgers, Rivers, and a few lucky others, then he may end up becoming a difference maker.
I don't feel he should be a default pick if he's there at #9 though. Warmack would have to be gone, Floyd, Milliner, Star, Jones (depending on how you feel about his health) and even maybe Eifert.
The real difference was the running games, Syracuse could not be stopped.
The thing I like about Geno is that he's pretty good in taking what a defense will give him, completes passes at a high completion rate, and moves the chains... But mainly he's ultra competitive and calm and cool at all times.
I think he'd transition well into MM's offense...
If the Jets scouts believe that Geno can be a good NFL QB, how do you pass?
We have no QB!
We are rebuilding!
We are not winning a Superbowl in the next 2 years!
I have no problem letting Sanchez start in 2013, but if he in his 5th year makes the same horrible decisions then sit his Azz on the bench & let the Geno Smith era begin.
Garrard is DONE! Old QBs with bad backs don't finish seasons, & this guy hasn't even played in 2 years! That's a long time in the NFL.
If we pass on him then I'm ok with the scouts decision but if we pick him, I'm also 100% on board & will look forward to watch his development under Marty.
It's not nearly as hard to be a QB in this league anymore, all the rules favor offense.
Ryan Fitzpatrick led the Bill to many 30 point performances.
If the Bills defense was as good as the Jets in 2009/2010 they would have Also been in the playoffs both seasons.
A OG in the top 10, no less Top 20, is insane.
For those of you who think it's a great idea to draft Warmack at 9, I need to remind you all that a Guard is the LEAST most important position on a Football team.
Investing a prime draft pick on a OG is absolutely a waste. My fellow Jet fans, I am all for drafting the BPA at 9. But if some insane reason Warmack is truly the "BPA"...
!!!TRADE THE FOCK OUT IMMEDIATELY!!!