Jet Set -
Originally posted by Jet Set Junta@Nov 20 2003, 12:38 PM
With all due respect, it seems like in both of your replies 5ever, you're only further proving my point: yes fundamentalist Islam is bad and yes it's a trend we've seen evident in several terrorist attacks on and off our soil. But once again, what does that have to do with the 500 lives and billions of dollars we are expending in IRAQ? Saddam was many things, but he was not a fundamentalist Muslim leader and all the mud-digging "ties" via Fox News pinning Al Queda to him pale in comparison to almost every other government in the Middle East, especially Syria, Egypt, and Iran.
As for your broader point that things "need" to go bad for the Democrats to win, I say "NO s**t!". Things ARE bad, and the fact that some low-wage retail jobs with no health insurance have opened up in the past weeks does not suddenly redeem the 4 year analysis of Bush II's Presidency and the fiscal and foreign policy problems that come directly from his mismanagement of the country, for me or for a good 50% of other Americans out there. You probably disagree that things are bad, which is why you have no problem voting for Bush "warts and all" in 2004.
There has never been an opposition party in the history of ANY government that didn't gain momentum and somewhat feed off critiques of bad policy by the party in power. If they didn't think they can do better, they shouldn't be running at all! That's human nature, and the argument you're making here comes dangerously close to "You're either with Bush or against America", which IS imo a genuinely fascist piece of rhetoric that I know you to be better than.
And going back to my main point about where the real sympathies and "misguided" opinions are in this country, I firmly believe that if we gave a ballot to every American right now with the following two true or false questions:
1. TRUE/FALSE : Bush is worse than Hitler, and the death of American troops are a means to the end of getting Bush out of power ASAP.
2. TRUE/FALSE : Bush is being guided by God to fight the Islamic axis of Evil by avenging Saddam Hussein, who was involved with 9/11
More people in this country would mark (2) than (1), though I certainly sympathize with your story from this morning where you clearly met one of the (1) people. Now you know how I feel when every sports forum I visit online has the (2)'s outnumbering their counterparts by a good 5-1 count. :rolleyes: