[quote][i]Originally posted by bitonti[/i]@Oct 31 2003, 12:25 PM
[b] im talking about the attitudes of conservatives to one of their own. Cause Arnold is a Republican he gets a moral hall pass. Its ok cause he aplogized? Cause Bill is a Democrat he gets nailed to the wall and is the subject of endless indignation.
Shades of similarity to the Rush Limbaugh situation. The guy is jacked up on enough hillbilly heroin to kill a horse but he needs HELP and SUPPORT. But an unknown guy caught with a couple grams of weed should get sent up the river and the key thrown away.
Morality in its very nature is not individually flexible. They are absolute standards of behavior that should be applied to all people equally. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. If Bill is a womanizing scumbag then so is Arnold case closed.
PS - if we are discussing who did what - Bill Clinton never disclosed detailed interview accounts of back room gangbangs. :blink: [/b][/quote]
Well, to me there is quite a difference between an actor / bodybuilder admitting he had done some reprehensible things and apologizing and a sitting president getting blown by an intern and then lying to the american people and more importantly under oath about it, what sickened me most about it was he was more than willing to try to ruin her by calling her a liar and having his people trash her until she produced the dress, then all of a sudden he got repentant, he always has and always will disgust me.
That said, I still think you are correct pointing out the hypocricy of alot of conservatives, either you are principled or your not and apparantly some conservatives are just selectively principled which to me is sad, if I'd been out there I would've voted for McClintock and if Bustamonte won by one vote I'd have been fine with that, actually, I'd have blamed Arnold if Bustamonte won cause if he just wouldn't have entered then we could've had a principled republican candidate win.
As for the Limbaugh situation this obviously doesn't put him a good light and he does have questions to answer, but, what happened to him could happen to anybody, It's pretty clear Rush didn't intentionally get himself hooked on Oxycotton and the like, it's something that happened to him and once hooked he was powerless to stop, I think that's the difference between Rush and a guy with a couple of grams of weed, the guy with the weed intentionally sought out an illegal drug for pleasure while Limbaugh unintentionally got hooked on the narcotic, heck, he tried twice to detox unsuccessfully, that to me indicates he was not in control of his situation.
As for us being in Iraq and republicans using the torture tapes of the Saddam regime to justify our presence there all I can say is I'm glad such a sick regime was ousted and it's an extra added benefit to us being over there but it was never the reason we went and never should have been, there are brutal dictators all over the world and there's nothing the U.S.A can or should do about it, I wish it were different, I wish we had the resources to fight every brutal regime and make the world better but we don't, maybe that would be something the U.N could look into but they've got more important things to worry about like whose sitting next to whom at the next black tie gala so they won't be able to fit inconveinances like brutal dictatorships into the schedule in the foreseeable future.