[QUOTE=Warfish;2655808]Convenient. The only thing par for the course I see here is Obama's followers denying what he is and what he stands for.
Let me guess, Obama (in your view) is a "Moderate", right? No Socialism here, nope, no way siree bob.
Is there any of his policies or ideals you would actually admit are based in Socialism and Socialist ideology?
I have to hand it to Ken, at least he is honest and up front, and stands up and says "Yes, I am a Socialist and I prefer Socialism".[/QUOTE]
Is he "more socialist" than McCain? Yes, in the same fashion that McCain is "more fascist" than Obama.
If you consider any redistributive policy "socialist," then he is a socialist. So, by that standard, is every politician in America who doesn't want to eliminate the income tax, or social security, or Medicare, or the GI Bill. And, by the way, by that standard, the U.S. is a socialist country right now.
You do realize that his most "socialist" proposal of all --universal health insurance-- was actually far to the right --"less socialist," as you'd put it-- of what the other leading Democrats were proposing, right?