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Winstonbiggs · 06-12-2011, 09:43 AM

[QUOTE=freestater;4045961]The original text was life, liberty, and property. The last part was changed to try to circumvent slave-owners using it as a tool to perpetuate a crime against humanity. Funny how you mention it while arguing that you have a right to the proceeds of the labor of others, against their will or not.

Franklin's quote concerned paying taxes for the support of government, not to be redistributed to one's neighbor. If you can't see the difference between the two, I can't help.[/QUOTE]

All taxation is taking property against the will of a person regardless of how it's being distributed.

The original text of the Declaration was changed it doesn't say property.

The right to tax is in the original and the amended constitution. You keep ignoring that liberty and rights are restricted by the Constitution as well as recognized. Government has function, function needs money, money comes from the people by the force of law not by their charity.

06-12-2011, 09:43 AM	#58
Winstonbiggs Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,934	[QUOTE=freestater;4045961]The original text was life, liberty, and property. The last part was changed to try to circumvent slave-owners using it as a tool to perpetuate a crime against humanity. Funny how you mention it while arguing that you have a right to the proceeds of the labor of others, against their will or not. Franklin's quote concerned paying taxes for the support of government, not to be redistributed to one's neighbor. If you can't see the difference between the two, I can't help.[/QUOTE] All taxation is taking property against the will of a person regardless of how it's being distributed. The original text of the Declaration was changed it doesn't say property. The right to tax is in the original and the amended constitution. You keep ignoring that liberty and rights are restricted by the Constitution as well as recognized. Government has function, function needs money, money comes from the people by the force of law not by their charity. Last edited by Winstonbiggs; 06-12-2011 at 09:48 AM.