[QUOTE=32green;4052143]Well at least we are not getting all melodramatic and all.[/quote]
Trampling the rights of citizens has varying degrees, but to get to the extreme, one must first convince society that the minor infringements of their rights are beneficial (or for the more egregious, at least legal). Is it such a 'melodramatic' stance to guard against such abuses before they get to such a point? Or is it only OK to qualm when the actual doors are closing?
[quote]Can we abide a system that allows a man to decide on the spot whether he is guilty or innocent and then disobey law enforcement?[/quote]
How about we agree on a system where those sworn to enforce the law actually know the law, and the rights of the people they are 'protecting'?
[QUOTE]Where has this been effective?
America. Right up until Pres. Nixon declared war on Individual rights.
[quote]What is the alternative?[/QUOTE]
A nation of laws, not men.