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Old 07-12-2011, 09:55 PM   #14
Warfish
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[QUOTE=JetPotato;4060755]You've failed to get my point entirely. And you are sounding a bit like JSJ with your cult comments too. You don't want to become that, do you?[/quote]

I'm not like him, because I can see that Cult-like behavior isn't limited to Faith, but also of movement. Ron Paul's fanatical, but tiny, following clearly falls into that category IMO, almost a Savior-Figure for those deseperate for one.

Sadly, he's just not it.

[QUOTE]I have clearly stated that Ron Paul is [B]unelectable[/B]. I don't know how many times I have to repeat that before you realize that I agree with you.[/QUOTE]

I am well aware we agree on that point, the most vital one.

Where we disagree is his effect on the election and on politics. You see it as huge and vital, I see it as almost nonexistent. You see him touching the masses, I see a masses who (beyond his cadre of loyalist) hardly knows who he is. And that included 95% of the Tea Party he supposed was the first member of.

[QUOTE]It's funny, whenever we have a Paul thread, people post the same thing over and over and over and over[/QUOTE]

Thats true. Loyalsts and critics alike.

[QUOTE]Many of Paul's positions are ones that you share, Warfish. [B] Many [/B]of them.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. But he is simply the wrong man to be in that role, and harms the movement by being it's supposed face than he helps it. Libertarianism doesn't need slow steady steps, it needs a treu leader, with massive personality and charisma, who can grab the bull by the horns and TAKE the people with him, in a huge shift in the libertarian direction. Slow will get us nowhere, as we'll lose as many as we gain over time as folks see little gains, and go down the "wasted vote" road. We need a big shift, with a real leader, espousing our views.

Paul isn't the man for this job.
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