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piney · 07-13-2011, 09:01 AM

[QUOTE=Warfish;4060461]1. Nothing "should just come with" in a contract relationship. All terms, rights and responsabillities must be clearly laid out in the contract. Failure to write a good contract is the failure of the buyer, not the seller of the service (the Union).

2. Unions negotiate for their members. Thast what they exist for. Failure to get good terms for the City/Taxpayers (us) is a failure of City/Political Leadership, not the Union. They are doing what they exist to do.

3. And finally, with respect, if the author of your piece cannot provide accurate numbers, that reflects of the integrioty of the other material within his/her piece. You may see getting salary figures wrong as a "minor issue", I do not.[/QUOTE]

the only caveat to this is when the process is corrupt, if you have negotiation between two entities where the best interest of the politician is not in getting the best deal for the taxpayer but the best deal to receive continued support from the union you have a problem.

or in Warfish terms:

TLDR: when the seller and the buyer are secretly sleeping together it can compromise the integrity of the deal.

07-13-2011, 09:01 AM	#17
piney hip deep in dirty diapers All League Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,618	[QUOTE=Warfish;4060461]1. Nothing "should just come with" in a contract relationship. All terms, rights and responsabillities must be clearly laid out in the contract. Failure to write a good contract is the failure of the buyer, not the seller of the service (the Union). 2. Unions negotiate for their members. Thast what they exist for. Failure to get good terms for the City/Taxpayers (us) is a failure of City/Political Leadership, not the Union. They are doing what they exist to do. 3. And finally, with respect, if the author of your piece cannot provide accurate numbers, that reflects of the integrioty of the other material within his/her piece. You may see getting salary figures wrong as a "minor issue", I do not.[/QUOTE] the only caveat to this is when the process is corrupt, if you have negotiation between two entities where the best interest of the politician is not in getting the best deal for the taxpayer but the best deal to receive continued support from the union you have a problem. or in Warfish terms: TLDR: when the seller and the buyer are secretly sleeping together it can compromise the integrity of the deal.