[QUOTE=chiefst2000;4061406]The Ryan plan for Medicare needs some work but it is a better option than doing nothing. The Medicaid plan on the Ryan Plan is solid. You say that healthcare under the Ryan Plan wont be affordable but that is difficult to know. I agree that we need major changes to the delivery system but I think the possibility was squandered when Obama used his super majorities to pass the unaffordable health care act. A plan which did everything BUT address healthcare affordability.
I will paint my personal scenario for you. I pay $22,000 per year for basic insurance for my family. This includes $2000 per person deductables and $50 copays. I just got a letter in the mail that the rate will be going up another 20% at renewal time. That will bring my cost up to $27,000 per year. As a small business with 5 employees I am forbidden from grouping with other small business and getting a larger pool of people. I am forbidden from purchasing a plan from ny neighboring state that is offered for half the price as well.
Now to the business side. I also have a small interest in a newly opened hospitality business. It is a small hotel that employs around 65 people. The margins on that business are a razor thin 3-4%. With the healthcare mandate from Obama care we will need to lay off enough workers to get below the 50 person threshold before the mandate kicks in. The alternative is to shut it down. Those folks will lose their jobs. Every Applebees/Chilis/Diner/Restaurant/Hotel will be facing similar situations and most will simply eliminate workers over the 50 employee threshold. Similarly businesses thinking of expansion and growth will need to calculate the cost of the Obamacare mandates when running risk reward scenarios with regards to expansion. This is a complete disaster for the economy and real headwind to job growth.
The reason I mention this is because people like Obama that have never run a business have no clue how the regulations and mandates they throw against the wall effect actual real world business. All this political posturing around the fake spending cuts being proposed by the Dem is just that. Fake garbage designed to fool the masses. Everyone knows that cuts are only relevant in the year they are made. Tax increases are generally permanent and structural. That's why the GOP are wisely opposing any tax increases. Those will most definately be permanent.[/QUOTE]
Doing nothing isn't the democrats plan. They plan to starve Medicare to change the delivery for everyone. The Ryan plan starves the less then wealthy from getting care at all at the expense of maintaining the same delivery system.
Neither plan is honest or transparent on that we agree completely.