[QUOTE=Warfish;4396383]If there is no ID check at the time of the vote, how is voter fraud "easily documented"?
Sounds like a Catch-22 to me.[/QUOTE]
it isn't, and only someone being intellectually dishonest would say so, people suspect fraud, they report it, it gets investigated...you really need me to spell out how that is easily documented?
[QUOTE]Yes. The burden in this issue should be on those claiming they cannot meet a basic requirement of identifying themselves, and establishing they posess the right to vote in the first place.[/QUOTE]
so, if I were to say that we should have handicapped access at public buildings I should prove how hard it could be for people in wheelchairs first by throwing them down a flight of stairs?
I mean, the burden should be on those who say it is hard to do...
Not common where I sit.
From where I sit I see one side protecting a system that does not meet a basic sniff test of accountabillity.
An ID check at the voting both is as basic and fundamental a rule as I could image. If I were crafting any kind of Democartioc system, proof of identity at the time of vote would almost literally be step #1 in the voting process.
Hell, I'd get rid of registration before I'd get rid of ID checks. If it were up to me, everyone with a Social Security Card could vote be default, and simply have to produce it at the time of casting their vote.[/QUOTE]
For me, if it were as simple as use what you already have, then I say go for it, but if it is, hey you have to go to the dmv to get it and the state or fed pays for the ID or you do, and you need proof of who you are to get one it creeps into voter polling tax.
having said that though, I would be all for testing it out on a small scale, locally, and see what the effects and costs are, and I would even say test it where voter fraud is believed to be random.