[QUOTE=Jungle Shift Jet;4495524]
For example many decry the Patriot Act either aping the odious Dr. Paul or some other social arsonist - but have no solution - they either say the concern is unfounded, prejudicial, or offer some glib non-answer based on platitudes and hypotheticals.[/QUOTE]
It's a bad example because the act as it was passed by Congress is meaningless. The way it's interpreted is classified. Those who support it have no idea what they are supporting other than a blank check that may or may not be protecting them or abusing them including members of Congress who extended it without any idea what they were extending.