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Trades · 06-20-2012, 08:35 AM

[QUOTE=chiefst2000;4495881]Obama giving them a 2 year reprieve solves nothing. Kids that serve in the Army and/or graduate from College are the types of immigrants we want in America. I am fine with a path for citizenship for that subgroup. Rubio proposed something like that last month. Kids that were brought to America under the age of 16 that have no criminal record and have been here 5+ years, and have served in the military or completed college would be given a work visa and the ability to apply for a green card.

Legal immigration in America is a good thing as long as those coming here are productive. Someone needs to pay in to Social Security to pay for all these retirees.[/QUOTE]

Conservatives aren't anti-imigration they are anti-ILLEGAL-imigration. Big difference. How many illegals have served in the military? I have to guess the number is VERY low.

I can see both sides. There is a point of principal that says they should all go back. They are here illegally and cut in line ahead of those willing to do things the right way. I would like to watch many of the amnesty crowd in line at the grocery store as people cut in front of them with loaded carts, lets have need 2 price checks, forget something and run and get it and then write checks for their order too. Oh and only 1 register is open too. I am sure you will be ok with it.

I also think that this is just another shoe horn to opening the door for everyone. Today, how about the nice kids. Tomorrow, well Carlos was only convicted of 1 violent felony but he wrote a nice kids book while he was in there so he deserves to stay.

On the other side I can see the reality of trying to get rid of these people. In a perfect world we could keep just the good ones. We all know that is impossible. If I KNEW it wouldn't grow larger I could live with this decision.

The right answer for me is to send people home with a form to fill out for re-admittance. Then open up legal immigration to more people. No criminals, no disease. OF course we still have a jobs issue and then we also have minimum wage keeping them from working for the pennies on the dollar that make them valuable in the first place. We are getting tons of H1(whatever) visa technical types coming here legally already. Those are the type of immigrants that we need. People that add to the pot rather than take.

06-20-2012, 08:35 AM	#20
Trades Jets Insider VIP Join Date: May 2004 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,556	[QUOTE=chiefst2000;4495881]Obama giving them a 2 year reprieve solves nothing. Kids that serve in the Army and/or graduate from College are the types of immigrants we want in America. I am fine with a path for citizenship for that subgroup. Rubio proposed something like that last month. Kids that were brought to America under the age of 16 that have no criminal record and have been here 5+ years, and have served in the military or completed college would be given a work visa and the ability to apply for a green card. Legal immigration in America is a good thing as long as those coming here are productive. Someone needs to pay in to Social Security to pay for all these retirees.[/QUOTE] Conservatives aren't anti-imigration they are anti-ILLEGAL-imigration. Big difference. How many illegals have served in the military? I have to guess the number is VERY low. I can see both sides. There is a point of principal that says they should all go back. They are here illegally and cut in line ahead of those willing to do things the right way. I would like to watch many of the amnesty crowd in line at the grocery store as people cut in front of them with loaded carts, lets have need 2 price checks, forget something and run and get it and then write checks for their order too. Oh and only 1 register is open too. I am sure you will be ok with it. I also think that this is just another shoe horn to opening the door for everyone. Today, how about the nice kids. Tomorrow, well Carlos was only convicted of 1 violent felony but he wrote a nice kids book while he was in there so he deserves to stay. On the other side I can see the reality of trying to get rid of these people. In a perfect world we could keep just the good ones. We all know that is impossible. If I KNEW it wouldn't grow larger I could live with this decision. The right answer for me is to send people home with a form to fill out for re-admittance. Then open up legal immigration to more people. No criminals, no disease. OF course we still have a jobs issue and then we also have minimum wage keeping them from working for the pennies on the dollar that make them valuable in the first place. We are getting tons of H1(whatever) visa technical types coming here legally already. Those are the type of immigrants that we need. People that add to the pot rather than take.