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chirorob · 06-25-2012, 02:52 PM

[QUOTE=Warfish;4500228][B]So the State has no sovreignty after they've signed the Constitution, meaning no matter what happens, the free people of a State can NEVER choose something different via Democracy?

One in, in forever? Even if (hypothetically of course) 99.998% of voters voted to leave the Union?
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That is a VERY interesting position.

Depends on how you define Democracy, and how much you trust certain nations who claimed some form of Democratic representation.

But it brings it back to your first reply. Once in, in forever, regardless of the will of the people?

I'm curious, as an added question, if the States truly have no sovreignty, and are merely administrative dept.s of an All-powerful Federal State, why have States at all? Why have local Govt., why not simply have local representaives of a larger Federal Govt.? Or assigned adminsitrators by the Executive branch?

What purpose does a State Govt. serve if that State Govt. has no sovreignty and hence no real authority vs. the Federal Govt, a Govt. they can never leave and never overrule?[/QUOTE]

Depends on what the state signed when they joined. Kind of funny how this conversation goes, and what happened the last time some of the states wanted to leave the union, as they were unhappy with what was going on in the country.

06-25-2012, 02:52 PM	#15
chirorob Draft the best available player. All Pro Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: In transit Posts: 5,803	[QUOTE=Warfish;4500228][B]So the State has no sovreignty after they've signed the Constitution, meaning no matter what happens, the free people of a State can NEVER choose something different via Democracy? One in, in forever? Even if (hypothetically of course) 99.998% of voters voted to leave the Union? [/B] That is a VERY interesting position. Depends on how you define Democracy, and how much you trust certain nations who claimed some form of Democratic representation. But it brings it back to your first reply. Once in, in forever, regardless of the will of the people? I'm curious, as an added question, if the States truly have no sovreignty, and are merely administrative dept.s of an All-powerful Federal State, why have States at all? Why have local Govt., why not simply have local representaives of a larger Federal Govt.? Or assigned adminsitrators by the Executive branch? What purpose does a State Govt. serve if that State Govt. has no sovreignty and hence no real authority vs. the Federal Govt, a Govt. they can never leave and never overrule?[/QUOTE] Depends on what the state signed when they joined. Kind of funny how this conversation goes, and what happened the last time some of the states wanted to leave the union, as they were unhappy with what was going on in the country.