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Old 06-26-2012, 08:52 AM   #20
Winstonbiggs
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[QUOTE=chiefst2000;4500133]they sold us a bill of goods to advance their universal healthcare agenda because to Progressives the ends justify the means.[/QUOTE]

Were your premiums going up above the rate of inflation before Obama care? Mine was. Wages in the US are stagnant relative to inflation which means health care costs were rising as both a percentage of GDP and as a percentage of people’s wages. In a nutshell more people would lose their health insurance if nothing was done on cost alone.

Is the Republican agenda out of control health care costs that benefit the few and a health care system that caters to less people?

The Obama plan is clearly flawed but so was the plan before Obama became President. It was the best he could do in the political climate we are under. Pretty crappy result and no doubt should be scrapped. The idea that Republicans have a better plan simply doesn't wash. They controlled the government and sat by while premiums went up and the population continued to age and did nothing. The suddenly became interested in modest reform when they lost elections and the entire debate changed.

Now even though the results suck, the progressive agenda doesn't suck at all. The concept of health care for all is very sound and as you rightly point out cost control is needed.

The concept that both sides have hung on to is the myth that those who have coverage can keep getting their own choices when costs are skyrocketing and as the population ages more care will be needed per person. Clearly both sides have to stop lying to us about nothing changing in the way health care is delivered. We are going to need massive changes.

The progressive agenda isn't the problem. Limited care for the rich isn't a problem either. It's everyone else that's the problem.
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