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Mainejet · 06-27-2012, 06:31 PM

[QUOTE=NY2FLDWC85;4501656]Mainejet, it's called NFL player development; which is something that you obviously know nothing about.

Our front office, our coaching staff, our fan base, pretty much everyone and their mothers not only knew, but also understood that we were drafting a project talent with the 29th pick of the 2nd round (61st overall). Your temper tantrums can't and/or won't change that. It's reality buddy.

[B]These aren't "excuses", these are stone cold facts[/B]. He was a very raw kid coming out of college, one who not only had a language barrier to overcome, but also lacked any type of NCAA Division 1 experience ala playing for a small program such as Massachusetts. He went up against teams such as Albany, Rhode Island, Stony Brook, Delaware, Richmond, North Eastern, Hofstra and James Madison etc, etc; and you honestly mean to tell me, that you're seriously complaining about the fact that an inexperienced project made mistakes as only a raw, 2nd year player, in whom had just about no elite college and/or NFL experience? Are you kidding me? He's been the first UMass football player drafted by the NFL since linebacker Khari Samuel in 1999 for a reason. It's called being a developing project from a small college program.

Anyone who knew (anything) about the overall situations of Vlad coming out of school, not only knew, but also understood it could take this kid a good 2-3 years of developing under an NFL coaching staff before being ready to come into his own. Which is something that our coaching staff obviously already knew, especially considering the fact that he's yet to be "cut". He's still on the roster for a reason. He'll be here next offseason as well. It's called NFL development. We didn't draft Vlad during the 2nd round to impact asap (regardless of the unrealistic view points that you've shared with us); we drafted Vlad to develop his ability, tap into his potential, coach up his talents all for a chance to see the finished product 2-3 maybe even 4 years down the line.

You're making a big deal about this, due to the fact that he's a "2nd round draft pick". I can name you 15 1st round draft picks (from the 2010 NFL draft) that's done nothing on the NFL level, and I could also name you 15 2nd round draft picks in which have completely done nothing since being drafted back in 2010. The difference? Those teams expected these players to impact sooner rather than later, the Jets on the other hand? We've only expected to develop this kid over the years.[/QUOTE]

Stone cold facts my A$$. You constantly make excuses for this turd. The fact is, he's done NOTHING since coming here, absolutely NOTHING. So whether you choose to debate that fact or not is irrelevant.

You would at least think you'd get some sort of promising play from the guy, right? Just so much as a glimpse of decent play? Even you and your completely biased Kool Aid should be able to grasp that concept, right?

The ONLY place where the guy has contributed at all is in double TE formations. That's something that we could have gotten out of a guy off the street. We didn't need to waste a 2nd round pick on the guy.

The entire concept is simply wrong anyway. We don't live in an NFL world where you can take your sweet old time trying to get talent to come through. If the guy had been a 7th round developmental pick I wouldn't have had a problem with it. But a 2nd round pick? Get real.

You absolutely have to hit on those picks if you expect to win SB's. Well, what are the results? Has he done ANYTHING to warrant where he was taken? NO, he hasn't. Meanwhile, the Jets NEEDED Ducasse to be a player last season very desperately. Instead, they had to get creative to find ways he could actually contribute.

The fact is, the Jets FO EXPECTED him to at least contribute at Guard the season he was drafted. They thought he'd be our future RT. They were wrong on all counts.

The kid is a bust, pure and simple. Even if he started to emerge as a pro bowler this season (fat chance:rolleyes:) he'd still be viewed as a wasted pick.

I truly hope I'm wrong, but my money has him being cut somewhere in the near future. That would PROVE your whole argument is nonsense.

06-27-2012, 06:31 PM	#46
Mainejet impatiently waiting for the Jets to win the SB Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 11,880	[QUOTE=NY2FLDWC85;4501656]Mainejet, it's called NFL player development; which is something that you obviously know nothing about. Our front office, our coaching staff, our fan base, pretty much everyone and their mothers not only knew, but also understood that we were drafting a project talent with the 29th pick of the 2nd round (61st overall). Your temper tantrums can't and/or won't change that. It's reality buddy. [B]These aren't "excuses", these are stone cold facts[/B]. He was a very raw kid coming out of college, one who not only had a language barrier to overcome, but also lacked any type of NCAA Division 1 experience ala playing for a small program such as Massachusetts. He went up against teams such as Albany, Rhode Island, Stony Brook, Delaware, Richmond, North Eastern, Hofstra and James Madison etc, etc; and you honestly mean to tell me, that you're seriously complaining about the fact that an inexperienced project made mistakes as only a raw, 2nd year player, in whom had just about no elite college and/or NFL experience? Are you kidding me? He's been the first UMass football player drafted by the NFL since linebacker Khari Samuel in 1999 for a reason. It's called being a developing project from a small college program. Anyone who knew (anything) about the overall situations of Vlad coming out of school, not only knew, but also understood it could take this kid a good 2-3 years of developing under an NFL coaching staff before being ready to come into his own. Which is something that our coaching staff obviously already knew, especially considering the fact that he's yet to be "cut". He's still on the roster for a reason. He'll be here next offseason as well. It's called NFL development. We didn't draft Vlad during the 2nd round to impact asap (regardless of the unrealistic view points that you've shared with us); we drafted Vlad to develop his ability, tap into his potential, coach up his talents all for a chance to see the finished product 2-3 maybe even 4 years down the line. You're making a big deal about this, due to the fact that he's a "2nd round draft pick". I can name you 15 1st round draft picks (from the 2010 NFL draft) that's done nothing on the NFL level, and I could also name you 15 2nd round draft picks in which have completely done nothing since being drafted back in 2010. The difference? Those teams expected these players to impact sooner rather than later, the Jets on the other hand? We've only expected to develop this kid over the years.[/QUOTE] Stone cold facts my A$$. You constantly make excuses for this turd. The fact is, he's done NOTHING since coming here, absolutely NOTHING. So whether you choose to debate that fact or not is irrelevant. You would at least think you'd get some sort of promising play from the guy, right? Just so much as a glimpse of decent play? Even you and your completely biased Kool Aid should be able to grasp that concept, right? The ONLY place where the guy has contributed at all is in double TE formations. That's something that we could have gotten out of a guy off the street. We didn't need to waste a 2nd round pick on the guy. The entire concept is simply wrong anyway. We don't live in an NFL world where you can take your sweet old time trying to get talent to come through. If the guy had been a 7th round developmental pick I wouldn't have had a problem with it. But a 2nd round pick? Get real. You absolutely have to hit on those picks if you expect to win SB's. Well, what are the results? Has he done ANYTHING to warrant where he was taken? NO, he hasn't. Meanwhile, the Jets NEEDED Ducasse to be a player last season very desperately. Instead, they had to get creative to find ways he could actually contribute. The fact is, the Jets FO EXPECTED him to at least contribute at Guard the season he was drafted. They thought he'd be our future RT. They were wrong on all counts. The kid is a bust, pure and simple. Even if he started to emerge as a pro bowler this season (fat chance:rolleyes:) he'd still be viewed as a wasted pick. I truly hope I'm wrong, but my money has him being cut somewhere in the near future. That would PROVE your whole argument is nonsense.