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Old 07-11-2012, 08:16 AM   #23
GuidoYaztremski
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Originally Posted by JB1089 View Post
Haven't you already made this thread before?


I'm one of the most pro-Sanchez people on here, and everytime I read through your spinning of the numbers, I have to reconsider my position. It's one thing to be a fan, it's another to make no attempt whatsoever to be objective. Picking out a set of games that gives Sanchez a 94.6 passer rating? Really? You think that's an accurate reflection of the player that he is right now?


I'm pro-Sanchez, but my argument has always been that he's shown enough to give him more time and that he's not primarily responsible for the team's struggles last year or either AFCCG loss. I don't know how good he'll wind up being. I think that it's unlikely that he'll ever be elite (though there's still a remote chance) and I'm almost certain that he'll be better than he has been.

Anyone that believes Sanchez is a good QB right now has a very broad understanding of what it means to be "good." I have Sanchez somewhere in the 14-19 range. That's average to slightly below-average. If he was 29, I wouldn't be satisfied with that, but he's not, so I want to give him more time instead of starting over with another young QB. But that doesn't seem to be your position.




Lastly, I'm someone that also likes to use stats to support their arguments. Yet I find your number filled ramblings to be frustrating.

Sanchez increased his passing yardage in 2011.........so what? He threw the ball more often, his yards per attempt went down. His touchdowns increased, I was very happy about this, and his performance in the red zone improved dramatically.

There's no way to put a negative spin on that, but you should also be mindful that our red zone playcalling was radically different in 2011 than it was in 2009 and 2010. We ran the ball less and threw more. Sanchez's passing TDs were slightly depressed in his first two years, and slightly inflated in his 3rd year.

Anyone that has watched the Dolphins for the past few years should know how conservative Sparano is in the red zone. Sanchez could play just as well in the red zone and throw for fewer TDs in 2012 than he did in 2011.

Lastly, our red zone excellence last year masked how bad the offense really was. Red zone %'s tend to fluctuate significantly from year to year. Even the best offenses in the league have a hard time maintaining the 65% success rate that we had last year, from season to season. If the offense regresses to 54% (where the Giants were last year), combined with the shift in red zone playcalling....that's why you can't just say "Sanchez threw for 26 TDs last year, he should throw for even more this year if he continues to progress."

It's one thing to look at a box score, it's another to understand the context in which those numbers were produced. Far too often, you're just regurgitating numbers and giving the most pro-Jet interpretation of them that you can come up with.
DWC hits a new low, yet you make this post. Excellent reasoned reply. The kid just doesn't get it.
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