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Originally Posted by doggin94it
Yeah! I mean sure, the guy had tossed in a canister of tear gas and was wearing body armor, but I'm sure a citizen with a gun would have been able to hit him in the head or through a seam in the body armor, and not accidentally shoot anyone else in the chaos. After all, if those conditions aren't perfect for aiming at a small, moving target, I don't know what conditions would be!
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Originally Posted by Warfish
Agreed.
The "Arm Everyone" Meme is not a legitimate solution here.
I am not convinced there IS a legitimate "would have stopped this" solution that would also have been acceptable in terms of the civil liberties of the other 350 million of us in the U.S.
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This.
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Originally Posted by DeanPatsFan
Actually a citizen with a semi automatic pistol holding a 14-15 round clip could very easily have shot him in the head and ended the massacre...
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LOL! Guys with tactical training (such as myself) would have found this guy to be a difficult target, let alone a "citizen with a semi-automatic". Your sight is impaired by both the darkness of the movie theater coupled with the constantly changing light conditions of what is going on in the movie, PLUS you're being inundated with the soundtrack, screams and gunfire in an enclosed space. Not exactly favorable conditions for a precision shot.
Also, anyone with an iota of tactical training (aside from maybe SEALs) is trained to shoot center mass, not the head. Aiming for the head in target practice conditions your muscle memory to do the same thing IRL, and IRL you're faced with what I outlined above, against a fluid, moving target. Sorry, but most guys miss that shot, especially "citizens with semi-automatics".
And another thing, citizens shouldn't have 15 round clips. In NY, they don't, at least not legally. Hell, I'm LEO and when I retire permanently even I'm not allowed to have them.