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Originally Posted by Jetworks
It means I wasn't sure if you were serious about whether or not the cops should have shot them in the leg. If that was serious, it shows a profound lack of understanding about policing and the use of deadly physical force.
Cops are justified in the two examples I cited. OP will never admit that, though.
Where are "my thoughts" wrong? Go read some operational orders or CPLs about the use of deadly physical force and get back to me about what is actionable and justifiable, instead of relying on sophist posts of bloggers. And then get some relevant numbers to back up your claims that it's more prevalent. Until then, please preface all of these posts you make with "IMO", because that's what they are, opinions.
The citation you have offered up about the M16s is, in fact, about AR15s. It goes on to say that the the MPDC trained 10% of their force. That is most certainly not "routinely". The Miami PD started using them in response to an officer being shot by a bad guy that had one. Would you prefer that LEOs be under-equipped to meet that? Or do you think it's better practice to have shotguns, which are inherently less accurate? And since the article is 4 years old, are there updated statistics about this "rampant" increase in the equipping of rifles? Also, how does this relate to police brutality? Carrying better equipment does not equal abuse.
Still waiting to hear you justify the position that the two cases I cited were not good shootings. Of course, you having no LE training puts you at a disadvantage for understanding the legalities of the situations, but I'm still curious to hear how you would have handled them. Guy has a knife, is clearly altered, what do you do? Guy has a gun, has killed someone in plain sight in NYC, what do you do? Seriously, I'd love to hear your answers.
Not lessening my respect for those that stood the wall, but by your admission, you've never seen any combat then?
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I never saw combat.
Does not mean that I am any less of a Marine. I answered the call. The politics of the day is out of every Marine's ability. You have no idea how tough it is to keep Marines out of combat (in garrison). It is difficult to keep the 'Dog's of War' reigned in (lol).
I often see where a LEO states that they 'feared for their life'. There are several places in the world where Marines and Soldiers stand guard solo. That individual IS the front line of defense. GTMO is one of those places.
There is a big sign in Camp Lejeune; "Every Man is Expendable". Once a Marine sees that reality, any fear they may have is lost for good. My Honorable Discharge, Service to my Nation and Rank speaks volumes about my courage and character.
Furthermore, even if I served AD today and was a POGUE Marine, I'd STILL be called 'Marine'