Originally Posted by Warfish
Thank you, I like to think so, on most issues.
You are arguing my point.
Defense of an Organized Religion is the same as Criticism of that Organized Religion.
It's no different that a liberals Defense of Organized Labor and the alternative Criticism of Organized Labor.
In neither case does criticism = bigotry.
You're free to take that view. Others are free to take other views, especially if the actions of the organized religions in question have effects on them or their lives, or their viewpoints re: society as a whole.
I'm not supporting their specific criticism per se, only their inalienable right to express criticism without being labeled as a hateful -ism simply for expressing criticism
After all, isn't just that what many Conservatives argue Liberals do to them, call valid criticism racism, sexism or homophobia?
He is very much a robust critic of human, organized, religion, especially Chrisitianity and (now) Mormonism, aye.
I believe in Jesus Christ. Doggin does not. Neither he nor I are a bigot. If I call Judaism a gutter religion (ala some black folks) I AM a bigot. If doggin says Catholics are a filthy pervert religion (FF2 has) he is a bigot.
I merely say belieive what you will. We should have that opportunity without criticism. Religion is a little different than leg breaking union thugs from the teamsters or CWA.
Now, we all have the right to say whatever about another person's religion or race. However, doing so in a negative way DOES cast one as a bigot, racist or biased.
Calling a liberal un American is not the same. Hey, calling someone a faggot is now a criminal offense in many areas. I do not believe that is an appropriate comment either. Nor a crime.