10-03-2012, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dcat
exactly. It may seem counterintuitive to Traitor Jay, but by imposing a modest PSL on the upper deck, one with transfer privieges like all other PSL locations, the Jets would have done a better job selling out the UD initially and retaining them. Their decision to not impose a PSL on the UD was just another publicity stunt designed to make them look more fan-friendly than the Giants. Very short sighted and, frankly, it backfired in their faces. As we can plainly see now.
This is one hell of a stupid organization. Of 32 NFL franchises, the Jets are the Special Ed child of the bunch. Definitely riding on the NFL short bus. In fact, they should use those short buses for the parking lot shuttles. It would represent the organization and Jets fan base perfectly.
Originally Posted by Digetydog
In may seem crazy, but PSL's in the UD would have done a few things:
1) The people who "bought" a PSL in the UD would be less likely to walk away from their "investment" than people who didn't pay anything;
2) Any funds raised through PSL sales in the UD could have been used to lower the price of PSL's in the lower bowl. Thus, the Jets could have given people an incentive to buy up lower bowl PSL's early.
3) If you will remember, the UD originally sold out quickly as long time STH's wanted to keep getting "free" tickets. As originally priced, the LEZZ (and I believe Mezz B) were $5K and 4K each. I don't think there were any $2500K PSL's available during the original offer. The net result was a full UD and an empty lower bowl. (I remember begging the Jets to let us buy UD seats, but couldn't get any.)
4) With an empty LLEZ and Mezz B to deal with, the Jets lowered the prices and sold out LLEZ and most of Mezz B. But, by the time they did that, longtime STH had effectively "lost" all their seniority. When people realized how "bad" the high row UD seats really were, that bitterness was reinforced.
5) The originally priced the large number of LLEZ seats at $1000 more than the Mezz A seats. Mezz A sold out - LLEZ was a ghosttown until they were forced to cut the fee by half.
6) Because they botched their initial pricing scheme, the Jets have been dealing with moving fanbases since day 1.
If I had priced the stadium:
1) LLEZ - $4000
2) Mezz A - $4000
3) Mezz B - $2500
4) UDEZ - $1000/500 based upon rows
5) UD Corners - $1000/500 based upon rows
6) Club Seats - Because you want people to pay $700 per seat, charging an enormous PSL was simply idiotic. Either PSL needed to be lower or the ticket needed to be cheaper.
7) Ticket Price Guarantee - they needed to promise to the fanbase that the ticket prices would not be increased for five years.
8) Longtime STH who bought at least 4 PSLs would have gotten some sort of bonus/discount.
9) The financing was a good idea. I would have given a bonus (parking, food, etc) to people who paid in full.
You guys continue to ignore the fact that the Jets NEVER actually sold out the Upper Deck. From year one, huge swaths of rows have been shipped over to the discounters, producing paper sell outs that avoid blackout rules. Are people walking away? Sure. but if they put even nominal PSL fees on these crap seats they would have fewer people up there.
Only possible exception would be the upper prime boxes on the sideline. They could have gotten away with a small PSL on those.