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Old 10-04-2012, 11:55 AM   #71
doggin94it
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Originally Posted by copernicus View Post
Numerous former students who were terrible in the classroom both behavior wise and academically come back to the same school to thank the teachers years later. They claim that it was the teachers who made them successful and they often apologize for the way they had behaved as students. I have personally witnessed this year after year at my public school in nyc.

You cant evaluate teachers initially because in many cases it is not until years later where it pays off.

Society has to go back to trusting the professionals, the teachers......
If there is no way to tell who is a good teacher or who is a bad teacher, then all teachers - experienced or inexperienced, highly educated or not - should be paid equally at the lowest wage the market will bear. After all, if there is no way to tell that an experienced teacher is better than an inexperienced teacher, why pay for experience? If there is no way to tell that a teacher with a masters' degree is better than one without, why pay more for the degree, or require it at all? If any bum off the street can, as far as anyone would be able to tell, do an identically good or bad job in the classroom, then teacher wages should be set at whatever price would be necessary to entice any bum off the street to teach - since there would be no discernable decline in the quality of teaching or education.

Of course, I don't agree with that. But if you insist that teachers cannot be evaluated, then you do.
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