Originally Posted by doggin94it
If there is no way to tell who is a good teacher or who is a bad teacher, then all teachers - experienced or inexperienced, highly educated or not - should be paid equally at the lowest wage the market will bear. After all, if there is no way to tell that an experienced teacher is better than an inexperienced teacher, why pay for experience? If there is no way to tell that a teacher with a masters' degree is better than one without, why pay more for the degree, or require it at all? If any bum off the street can, as far as anyone would be able to tell, do an identically good or bad job in the classroom, then teacher wages should be set at whatever price would be necessary to entice any bum off the street to teach - since there would be no discernable decline in the quality of teaching or education.
Of course, I don't agree with that. But if you insist that teachers cannot be evaluated, then you do.
I have been evaluated for every year of teaching, 15 in total. Most people dont realize this but teachers are evaluated every year multiple times. More times than cops, firemen, sanitation, etc. I have no problem whatsoever being evaluated by educators who are my superiors. Before corporate greed got their hands in on education, most principals were former teachers, not anymore. It shows in their leadership. Its a big secret, politicians are creating "principal academies" like the one mayor Bloomberg has. Its by invitation only, no teaching experience necessary. Nice, fat, cushy administrator jobs for unqualified educators who are friends of politicians. Shhhh, its part of where the money is being wasted.
I have a problem with teachers being scored by tests from companies that are directly connected to politicians. You know how they get fat? They make the tests extremely difficult (when teacher contacts and tenure is in the news), all the kids fail, teachers look like failures, and the kids need to get extra help from the same resources of the company that created the tests. It also puts pressure on the system to change so big business can "fix it" (LMAO). Scores go up when it is an election year and tests are made simple. Presently there are multiple ways to score these state exams. One score makes the teachers look incompetent, another makes the politician look like a genius. Its maddening that society is letting these crook politicians get away with it. Mayor Bloomberg fought to get these scores connected to teachers published in the NY POST. Why? To degrade all teachers and prove his agenda. He is a big business man, he smells MONEY! Its the only side of the story that's being told. Open up the paper and its the teachers fault, just look at the scores!
It is very sad to job that politicians are doing on people who are attacking teachers. Its all about breaking the union so big business can come in and truly railroad America's youth.
With all due respect, so many of you guys sound passionate and educated but you dont understand what is happening.
I am formally evaluated 6 times per year. My superiors words mean a lot to me and to most teachers. Since NCLB, the evaluation process for teachers has become money pit for corporations who are involved in testing, pre testing, and textbooks that line up exactly to the tests. If the general public really knew how much of YOUR TAX money was going directly into politician friend's pockets you'd be appalled. The fight is not against teachers my friends, its against the politicians who are acting scrupulously affecting YOUR children's education.
Anyone try to help their kids with math recently? Its called "new math." You know why your kid learns math so differently than you? SO YOU CANT HELP HIM and are forced to PAY for help to companies directly connected to the state exams.....
This is what's happening