Originally Posted by shakin318
Couldn't have been two more differing visions for America than what was represented in the candidates last night. Obama's vision won, regardless of whether or not those voting for him (or anybody else) have any idea of what that vision really is. By 2016 and beyond, it really won't matter who's running on the R ticket -- he or she won't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the presidency. There will simply be far too many more "Americans" who vote for a living rather than work for a living by then. Elections are a lock for D presidential candidates from here on out, so as I said in the title, it's your country now. Enjoy!
Agreed. It's all (in the end) a basic math problem.
95%+ of African Americans
65%+ of Hispanics and growing
55%+ of Women and growing
And the population of African Americans, Hispanics and Women is growing, and if immigration reform (amnesty) passes, will grow greatly between now and 2016, 2020 and 2024.
All of this lopsided support based, it seems to me, on policies that (R) cannot simply abandon without going ahead and being (D V2.0).
I'd be all ears to hear what the resident (D) geniuses think (R) can do to change the demograhic math problem.
Should (R) be for illegal immigration? For Affirmative Action and Welfare and Massive Government? For Universal Healthcare, Abortion on Demand and Free Rubbers for 1st graders on up?
If so, we already have that party. They're called (D).
In all seriousness, I see no position (R) can take without the wholesale abandonment of conservativism, that will change the demographic defeat we just saw.
Enjoy the victory (D), you won and for once I agree with the hyperbole, this election may have been (R) last shot, so you can be as smug as you want now (and many of you are from my reading thus far this morning).
As for the joke of "Libertarianism", spare me. The idea of the individual is as dead as anything could be dead in this nation. The "greater good" argument just handed individual rights its ass, and I don;t see that changing because of a laughable fringe 0.05% fringe group with big fantasies.