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jetster · 11-20-2012, 02:54 PM

Not gonna take anything away from the fact that Belichick is a very good coach but it would be azzinine to believe that he could have the record he has WITHOUT TB12.
While its true that Brady started as a game manager, Belichick saw something in him in practice that made him realize he was much better than Bledsoe.

Belichick is more of a rules stretcher than any other coach I've ever seen. Early in his Pats career he figured out that refs were told to keep the flags in heir pockets so as to not disrupt the game.

So, he won his 1st Superbowl by doing two things that were illegal but for that reason refs were not making the calls. The 1st was to have his ends on defense grab & hold Marshall Faulk so he was unable to get into the flat or between the LBs where he does his damage.
The other thing he had his secondary do was grab & hold a lot, and in the Superbowl vs the Rams he had players "hitting" the Rams receivers whether they caught the ball or not, & they also hit them when they gave themselves up and went to the turf.
As every football fan knows both of these strategies don't work today because the league is now "enforcing" the rules that Belichick 1st took advantage of.

In fact BB kept getting away with his interpretation of the rules until Bill Polian sent film to the league office asking why the Patriots were not being called for holding after the 5 yard marker, which happened more than 14 times on tape in the Colts loss to the Pats in the snow.

The Superbowl win vs the Rams could not even be duplicated in the NFL in 2012, the Pats would have had so many personal foul late hit calls, & hitting defenseless receivers that they probably would have had players tossed from the game.

As everyone knows now, it was the playoff games vs the Colts that preempted the changes & enforcement of the 5 yard rule.

So, if you want to tell me that without Brady, Belichick would be as successful as he has been I would say BS.
If you ask me if BB is a very good coach, manipulator, always looking to stretch the rules, & would pretty much do anything to win a game. I have to answer yes. I wish he never walked away from NY.

11-20-2012, 02:54 PM	#36
jetster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,924	Not gonna take anything away from the fact that Belichick is a very good coach but it would be azzinine to believe that he could have the record he has WITHOUT TB12. While its true that Brady started as a game manager, Belichick saw something in him in practice that made him realize he was much better than Bledsoe. Belichick is more of a rules stretcher than any other coach I've ever seen. Early in his Pats career he figured out that refs were told to keep the flags in heir pockets so as to not disrupt the game. So, he won his 1st Superbowl by doing two things that were illegal but for that reason refs were not making the calls. The 1st was to have his ends on defense grab & hold Marshall Faulk so he was unable to get into the flat or between the LBs where he does his damage. The other thing he had his secondary do was grab & hold a lot, and in the Superbowl vs the Rams he had players "hitting" the Rams receivers whether they caught the ball or not, & they also hit them when they gave themselves up and went to the turf. As every football fan knows both of these strategies don't work today because the league is now "enforcing" the rules that Belichick 1st took advantage of. In fact BB kept getting away with his interpretation of the rules until Bill Polian sent film to the league office asking why the Patriots were not being called for holding after the 5 yard marker, which happened more than 14 times on tape in the Colts loss to the Pats in the snow. The Superbowl win vs the Rams could not even be duplicated in the NFL in 2012, the Pats would have had so many personal foul late hit calls, & hitting defenseless receivers that they probably would have had players tossed from the game. As everyone knows now, it was the playoff games vs the Colts that preempted the changes & enforcement of the 5 yard rule. So, if you want to tell me that without Brady, Belichick would be as successful as he has been I would say BS. If you ask me if BB is a very good coach, manipulator, always looking to stretch the rules, & would pretty much do anything to win a game. I have to answer yes. I wish he never walked away from NY. Last edited by jetster; 11-20-2012 at 02:56 PM.