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Old 12-17-2012, 01:33 PM   #455
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Originally Posted by Snell41 View Post
God is in churches all across the nation, yet little boys were repeatedly molested. Man's propensity for violence has not risen. We have been a violent species pretty much since our beginnings. In fact I would go so far as to say our fear of death and our propensity for avoiding death is probably greater now than ever before. In prior generations God was an absolute given. You didn't question it. It was the law (literally) of the land. You went to heaven or you went to hell based on your actions on earth basically put. That was widely believed. Today we question this more and more. It's only natural knowing what we know about our earth and universe today. I think more than ever man as a whole values their life on earth because we DON'T know what's out there for us when we die. I think we realize that scientifically and logically speaking there may actually be nothing.

Now we can all argue until we're blue in the face whether religion is right, science is, or something in between, or none of them at all but that's not my point. My point is I think we DO value life more than ever. I just think the minority that does not value life or has mental issues that cause them to not value life have access to weapons that can wipe out a massive amount of people in a very short timespan. The solution is to somehow identify these people who do not value life, and limit their access to guns and weapons. Now how do you do this within the confines of our existing laws?
I read an article that related this tragedy to Pro-Choice leanings. While I think that the author took it way too far I can see his point that abortion, in his view, is a complete disregard for life. I do not endorse this article but I can see his rationale:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/gregor...l#.UM9lmXcXeSp
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Dear Mr. President:
So you were moved to tears Friday when you gave your statement about the slaughter of 20 innocent children in Newtown, Conn.


Your tears may well have been genuine, your grief sincere. But I'm not impressed that a man with such devotion to the act of abortion as yours is upset at the deaths of children.


"The majority of those who died today were children," you said in your statement, "beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old. They had their entire lives ahead of them -- birthdays, graduations, weddings, kids of their own."


Very passionate words indeed, Mr. President, ones that might apply to unborn children as well, millions of whom are massacred every year.


Here's why I believe both your statement and your tears are suspect.
On Friday, a gunman walked into the Connecticut elementary school and methodically, fatally shot 20 children and six adults.


He has been identified as 20-year-old Adam Lanza, who apparently killed himself after the shootings. Now imagine the following hypothetical situation:


Lanza isn't 20, but a 30-something surgeon who, five to 10 years ago, sucked those same 20 children down a tube while they were still in the womb.


Would we be talking about the slaughter of 20 innocent children? Or would Lanza receive praises from you and others like you for being an avid supporter of women's reproductive rights?


You know the answer to that as well as I do. You believe protecting children should start after they're born. I believe protecting children should start while they're still in the womb.


So I'm not buying your grief or your tears, Mr. President. Nor am I buying your not-very-subtle hint that more gun control laws will prevent such tragedies in the future.


According to a story on foxnews.com, "[the president] called for 'action' toward the close of his remarks, citing the frequency with which such mass shootings have occurred."


The story then quotes you directly: "These neighbors are our neighbors, and these children are our children, and we're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this -- regardless of politics."


It's not a question of how we prevent such tragedies, Mr. President. It's a question of why there are more of them now than in the past.


The automatic weapons that can kill large numbers of people existed in the past as they do today. Yet we have more apparent nut jobs killing large numbers of people today. Mr. President, are you naive enough to believe that the cause of this is firearms, or their availability?


There is much talk today of America's "gun culture." There is indeed a cultural issue here, Mr. President. But it has nothing to do with guns.
America has a culture where life has been devalued. That might not have started on Jan. 22, 1973, when the Supreme Court handed down the Roe v. Wade decision you so cherish, but it was the first time a branch of the federal government officially endorsed the devaluing of life.


Since then, one nut job after another has attempted to wipe out large numbers of people with the use of firearms. Other than the fact that they were all male -- the 10-ton elephant in the room in this debate that no one will address -- they all have one thing in common.


They were born in, reared in and received their values in a society where life has been consistently devalued. The availability of guns does not cause people to devalue life. Only the society they live in can do that.


When you and other elected officials face that sobering truth, maybe then we'll be on our way to preventing "more tragedies like this."


Examiner Columnist Gregory Kane is a Pulitzer-nominated news and opinion journalist who has covered people and politics from Baltimore to the Sudan.
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