Originally Posted by sec.101row23
People are nuts if they think that Tanny and Idzik are the "same" Look at Tanny's work history and duties:
Tannenbaum was an intern for the Pittsfield Mets during the 1991 season.
Tannenbaum worked in the Cleveland Browns' personnel department acting as an assistant under Bill Belichick.
New Orleans Saints
Tannenbaum worked as an intern in the New Orleans Saints personnel department while he attended law school In 1996, he worked for the team as a player personnel assistant.
New York Jets
Tannenbaum was hired by the New York Jets on February 19, 1997 as the Director of Player Contract Negotiations. Over the years, Tannenbaum served in numerous administrative positions with the team including Senior Vice President of Football Operations and Assistant General Manager.
Tannenbaum succeeded Terry Bradway as the team's new general manager in 2006.
Tannenbaum signed a contract extension with the team through 2014.
Following the last game of the 2012 NFL regular season, Jets owner Woody Johnson announced that Tannenbaum would not return for the 2013 season.
Now look at the work history of Idzik:
John Idzik begins his sixth season with the Seahawks after joining the club on February 16, 2007. With Seattle, Idzik oversees player negotiations, the team’s compliance with the NFL salary cap, player personnel transactions, all football operations budgets, staff and team contracts, team travel and most aspects of the day-to-day football operations while also remaining active in player evaluations. In addition, he serves as the club’s primary liaison to the NFL Office and represents the club at League meetings.
Prior to joining the Seahawks, Idzik spent three seasons as Senior Director of Football Operations for the Arizona Cardinals, helping to build an eventual NFC champion. Idzik entered the NFL in 1993 with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He spent 11 years with the Buccaneers, first as a Pro Personnel Assistant and then was elevated to Director of Football Administration in 1996 and Assistant General Manager in 2001. Prior to his tenure with the Buccaneers, Idzik spent the 1991-92 seasons as a graduate assistant coach at Duke University, where he assisted with the offensive line and running backs. In 1990 he was the offensive backfield coach for the Aberdeen Oilers (Scotland) of the British American Football League. Idzik’s first coaching assignment came in 1982 as receivers coach at the State University of New York at Buffalo.
Raised in a football family, Idzik’s father, also John, was the head coach of the Aberdeen club after serving as an NFL assistant coach for the Miami Dolphins, Baltimore Colts, Philadelphia Eagles, and N.Y. Jets. They became one of the NFL’s few father-son Super Bowl champions in 2003 when the younger Idzik’s Buccaneers won Super Bowl XXXVII, as his father was the offensive backfield coach of the Super Bowl V champion Baltimore Colts.
A native of Detroit, Idzik graduated with magna cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa honors from Dartmouth College in 1982 earning a bachelor’s degree in mathematics, where he also played wide receiver for the Ivy League Champion Big Green. He later earned a master’s degree in liberal studies from Duke University in 1992.
Now tell me they are the "same"..
John Idzik grew up in a football environment. Idzik's father was the OC NYJ under Walt Michaels from 1976-79. Idzik himself played college football and coached there too. He's had his hand in scouting and evaluation with several different teams. Has a degree in mathematics. And is noted to be very good at the CAP and the business side of football.
This is a well rounded and talented individual, who has spent his whole adult life in various related football capacities. He's not an accountant wannabe trying to break into a position within a sports organization.
He knows and understands the game of football. But because he's good at the CAP and negotiating contracts...this is somehow construed as a negative? Not me...I'm not going to prejudge him based on that. I'm simply going to judge him specifically on his performance.
I understand that he's agreed to try and work with Rex, and make this successful. If it's not working...well I hope Idzik has full power and authority to fire Rex, if he so chooses. Or anyone else for that matter. IMO, it is important that Idzik have full control of the football operation, in order to successfully carry out his vision, and plan of action for the NYJ.
Whether he's the right or wrong guy for GM NYJ...I'm going to reserve judgment. And base my opinion on...
How he's doing in reshaping this mess of an offense. How Idzik drafts. Who he pursues in FA. The kinds of trades he makes. And whether he signs players to contracts that realistically reflects their true CAP value to the team. And so on.
If Idzik is giving a quality performance in these areas...then I'm happy with him.