Some of you people always get worked up about the wrong things... The whole idea of a reach is just stupid... You absolutely consider where the player may go, but you are choosing the player who you think will become the great NFL player. You aren't trying to get this fictitious "value" that people speak of. "Value" is based on what? What some websites have someone ranked at?
One of the examples I can make is DT Ron Brace. I was 1000% confident that Brace would be a bust in the NFL. He was getting mentioned as a 2nd rounder, but I wouldn't have taken him in the 5th round because it was a waste of time. Some of the dumb draft sites would have applauded me for getting him in the 5th when he was talked about so long as a 2nd rounder but it was just a bad pick in any round.
That's the way people have to look at the draft. I used to be stupid as well and get worked up about the "reaches" and "good values" but you can never even prove what is truly good value or a reach so it's not worth talking about. The only thing that matters is whether the player turns into a good player or a bad player.
Guys like Dion Jordan and Sam Montgomery right now aren't seen as top 10 picks but I would absolutely take either of them because I believe they are going to be good players. I think their positives will carry over very well to the NFL. I also think they have the right mentalities. I can't promise myself that a team wouldn't take either of them around pick #12 so I do the safe thing and take the guy at number 9 in order to ensure I get the player I believe is going to be the good NFL player.
And Cordarrelle Patterson is absolutely a top 15 talent for the poster who suggested he wasn't above.