Originally Posted by patman
The most i would see a team pay him is 2 mill in 2013 with some incentives.
Why do you feel he has no chance of being on the team next year? The jets don't get any relief from cutting him. When your cutting people just for spite when there is no benefit for the team, does not make the jets attractive to FA. The guy got hurt while playing- how do you think other players would look at it? It is one thing to get cut when there is a cap savings, players understand that, but there is not benefit it does not look good.
The way I understood the way you laid it out was that Holmes WAS NOT guaranteed any money in 2014. If you did guarantee the salary lost in 2013 to be in replaced in 2014 then he would rework it. But I understood that you would have him take the risk coming off liz franc surgery based on games played.
Are you saying that the delta between the 11 salary and the 7.75 guarantee
will be guaranteed in 2014. If he has nothing to lose, then sure. If not the jets can cut him and not get any cap room since his replacement on the roster would get paid his 1.25 cost savings.
He knows the jets want him off the team, But he feels his career may be over and wants every dollar he can get his hands on.
But there is a cap benefit to cutting Holmes. The immediate cap help is $1 million. The Jets also receive offsets for salary received by a new team. So what would happen with Holmes (assuming he is not a June 1 cut) is that all his money accelerates when he is cut. Of that money $7.75 million is in the form of guaranteed salary. When he signs with another team for the $2 million the Jets receive that $2 million in both cash (assuming they paid Holmes within 30 days of the cut) and cap relief making the total savings $3 million.
This is why I am saying that $11 million salary is worthless. He has no avenue to earn it anywhere because it would require a team, either the Jets or another club, to pay him $11 million in salary in 2013. There is zero percent chance of that happening.
So again I would ask if you cut Holmes today would he receive a salary from a team in 2013 and then a non-guranteed salary of $9.5 million in 2014 from that same team? I dont think any team would do that. Now maybe hed be happy to go play in New England on a 1 year contract and hope he puts up numbers to get a big deal in free agency next season, but thats the only reason why he would refuse a paycut. He isnt going to earn more on a contract he signs this year than if he sticks with the Jets.