TRADE ? ? ? : COLES to JAX ? ? ?

kelly · 02-23-2008, 09:53 AM

last updated: 02/22/08

~ ~ ~ In Jacksonville they are excited with the emergence of young linebackers Clint Ingram and Justin Durant, so there is also talk that Mike Peterson days may be numbered....They also would love to pry :eek: Laveranues Coles :eek: from New York to bring him back home, so don't be surprised if thes two teams dance on draft day....

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jetsfan110 · 02-23-2008, 09:55 AM

wow...that would be a surprise...he would net a 2nd or 3rd rounder...it would be amazing if the jets traded robertson for a 3rd, vilma for a second and coles for a 2nd or third...that would give us a lot of draft picks in a pretty deep draft...i love the idea.

jetfan13 · 02-23-2008, 09:55 AM

great, lets get rid of the only person that resembles a playmaker

samwise · 02-23-2008, 09:57 AM

I'd do it. the reality of the NFL is older players don't get more productive, just less and less

bring in fresh legs and big bodies for the mill

nyjets1969 · 02-23-2008, 10:01 AM

I would love to see the Jets be able to trade Coles. I believe that Coles is one concussion away from retiring. The guy right now is reminding me a lot of the Chrebet situation years back and the Al Toon situation. Cole was a great reciever but After watching him last year I think he has maybe 1 good season left. The Jets would be smart to trade him now and get somthing for him then to resign him to a big contract and have him retire from a concussion.

CanadaSteve · 02-23-2008, 10:23 AM

QUOTE=jetfan13;2383251]great, lets get rid of the only person that resembles a playmaker[/QUOTE]
There really is only one response....

:bangwall::huh:[

chesapeakejet · 02-23-2008, 10:25 AM

[QUOTE=samwise;2383254]I'd do it. the reality of the NFL is older players don't get more productive, just less and less

bring in fresh legs and big bodies for the mill[/QUOTE]

Two words to blow your theory:

Randy Moss

OCCH · 02-23-2008, 10:27 AM

Not to sound overly sentimental, but if we were to get rid of Coles, at least he'd be going "back home".

Depending what we got in return, it could be a win/win.

I love the guy, but I don't see how he's part of our "big picture" future.

Again, all dependent on what we would get for him . . .

ThePenguin · 02-23-2008, 10:27 AM

i would trade him for a 2nd or 3rd in a hear beat. The only problem would getting a deep threat in the draft but if someone like sweed or another big guy fell to us in the second that would be out standing

samwise · 02-23-2008, 10:28 AM

[QUOTE=chesapeakejet;2383293]Two words to blow your theory:

Randy Moss[/QUOTE]

that doesn't count, he took 2 years off with the raiders

PatsFanTX · 02-23-2008, 10:29 AM

[QUOTE=jetfan13;2383251]great, lets get rid of the only person that resembles a playmaker[/QUOTE]

"Used to be" a playmaker.

Coles skills have greatly diminished, plus he's a malcontent.

It would be highway robbery if the Jets got a 2nd rounder for Coles.

HessStation · 02-23-2008, 10:30 AM

We lose Coles we better find a replacement fast!!! And I'm not talking via draft.

JiF · 02-23-2008, 10:33 AM

Get it done. Start cleaning house. Anyone with any value...send them packing.

Savage69 · 02-23-2008, 10:34 AM

[QUOTE=HessStation;2383306]We lose Coles we better find a replacement fast!!! And I'm not talking via draft.[/QUOTE]

Yes we need a replacement but I think Cotchery is a equal talent to Coles and is younger and healthier football wise..

bman · 02-23-2008, 10:36 AM

I hate when fans just want to pile up picks! Picks mean nothing. The draft is a crap shoot. You hope that 4 or 5 guys from the draft even make the team. If they are trading coles for a pick, they better be bringing in Chad Johnson. Coles when healthy will give you 80 catches, 900 yards, 8 td's and he'll play hurt...Can you guarantee that production from a rookie....I doubt it.

Vona41 · 02-23-2008, 10:41 AM

for a 2nd rounder i would do it. gives us the ability to build up the offensive line and take a shot on Hardy, Sweed, or Nelson as Cotch steps into the 1.

Bullitt245 · 02-23-2008, 10:42 AM

I'm torn on this. Coles is a great receiver and has always been a gamer. You can tell he was continually banged up and played right on through it. However, who knows when one of those hits is going to sit him up for an entire season? If we can get a second rounder in return I think you pull the trigger. This team is still being built for the future and will need playmakers for years to come, not playmakers of the past.

JMJ · 02-23-2008, 10:42 AM

[QUOTE=HessStation;2383306]We lose Coles we better find a replacement fast!!! And I'm not talking via draft.[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

If we sign another capable #1 (or really good WR) I would be happy as all hell to trade Coles for a 2nd or 3rd draft pick. However, if we did this move without already having another WR on the roster, and not knowing who exactly will be available to us in the draft and know we might not actually get they guy we're targeting it could be a disaster.

While Leon is our best playmaker, I firmly believe Coles is still our best offensive weapon. The guy runs super-crisp routes, gets open, and makes tough catches every single week.

PatsFanTX · 02-23-2008, 10:42 AM

[QUOTE=Savage69;2383315]Yes we need a replacement but I think Cotchery is a equal talent to Coles and is younger and healthier football wise..[/QUOTE]

Exactly. There is no reason not to believe Cotchery can assume the #1 WR position.

Finding a reliable #2 should not be that difficult.

But what the Jets really need, is an effective slot receiver. Brad Smith is not the answer there.

Beerfish · 02-23-2008, 10:44 AM

The Jets would have to at a bare minimum get a 2nd rounder or it is not worth it. As it is the Jets need at least two WR's in addition to Coles and Cotchery. Coles is a quality WR who plays hurt and plays at a high level. We'd just be creating yet another hole on the team that we may or may not be able to fill properly via the draft.

02-23-2008, 10:41 AM	#16
Vona41 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Keyport, NJ Posts: 2,497	for a 2nd rounder i would do it. gives us the ability to build up the offensive line and take a shot on Hardy, Sweed, or Nelson as Cotch steps into the 1. Last edited by Vona41; 02-23-2008 at 10:44 AM.

02-23-2008, 09:53 AM	#1
kelly is dancing w/ the devil... in the pale moonlite ;) ~ ~ Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: dunwoody, ga ! ! Posts: 10,932	TRADE ? ? ? : COLES to JAX ? ? ? last updated: 02/22/08 ~ ~ ~ In Jacksonville they are excited with the emergence of young linebackers Clint Ingram and Justin Durant, so there is also talk that Mike Peterson days may be numbered....They also would love to pry :eek: Laveranues Coles :eek: from New York to bring him back home, so don't be surprised if thes two teams dance on draft day.... > [url]http://www.draftdaddy.com/blog/nfldraft.cfm[/url]

02-23-2008, 09:55 AM	#2
jetsfan110 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 474	wow...that would be a surprise...he would net a 2nd or 3rd rounder...it would be amazing if the jets traded robertson for a 3rd, vilma for a second and coles for a 2nd or third...that would give us a lot of draft picks in a pretty deep draft...i love the idea.

02-23-2008, 09:55 AM	#3
jetfan13 Hall of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Boca Raton, Fl Posts: 6,540	great, lets get rid of the only person that resembles a playmaker

02-23-2008, 09:57 AM	#4
samwise Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bethel, CT Posts: 11,258	I'd do it. the reality of the NFL is older players don't get more productive, just less and less bring in fresh legs and big bodies for the mill

02-23-2008, 10:01 AM	#5
nyjets1969 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,104	I would love to see the Jets be able to trade Coles. I believe that Coles is one concussion away from retiring. The guy right now is reminding me a lot of the Chrebet situation years back and the Al Toon situation. Cole was a great reciever but After watching him last year I think he has maybe 1 good season left. The Jets would be smart to trade him now and get somthing for him then to resign him to a big contract and have him retire from a concussion.

02-23-2008, 10:23 AM	#6
CanadaSteve Liked the draft picks....meat and potatoes. All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: London, Ontario Posts: 6,525	QUOTE=jetfan13;2383251]great, lets get rid of the only person that resembles a playmaker[/QUOTE] There really is only one response.... :bangwall::huh:[

02-23-2008, 10:25 AM	#7
chesapeakejet is a geek who loves football boardgames. Schluberator & Gadfly ® Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 24,514	[QUOTE=samwise;2383254]I'd do it. the reality of the NFL is older players don't get more productive, just less and less bring in fresh legs and big bodies for the mill[/QUOTE] Two words to blow your theory: Randy Moss

02-23-2008, 10:27 AM	#8
OCCH glad I have more purpose in life than Jets football . . . Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 3,422	Not to sound overly sentimental, but if we were to get rid of Coles, at least he'd be going "back home". Depending what we got in return, it could be a win/win. I love the guy, but I don't see how he's part of our "big picture" future. Again, all dependent on what we would get for him . . .

02-23-2008, 10:27 AM	#9
ThePenguin Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindenhurst NY Posts: 1,916	i would trade him for a 2nd or 3rd in a hear beat. The only problem would getting a deep threat in the draft but if someone like sweed or another big guy fell to us in the second that would be out standing

02-23-2008, 10:28 AM	#10
samwise Hall Of Fame Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bethel, CT Posts: 11,258	[QUOTE=chesapeakejet;2383293]Two words to blow your theory: Randy Moss[/QUOTE] that doesn't count, he took 2 years off with the raiders

02-23-2008, 10:29 AM	#11
PatsFanTX JI Resident Troll Banned Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 52,068	[QUOTE=jetfan13;2383251]great, lets get rid of the only person that resembles a playmaker[/QUOTE] "Used to be" a playmaker. Coles skills have greatly diminished, plus he's a malcontent. It would be highway robbery if the Jets got a 2nd rounder for Coles.

02-23-2008, 10:30 AM	#12
HessStation All Pro Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,902	We lose Coles we better find a replacement fast!!! And I'm not talking via draft.

02-23-2008, 10:33 AM	#13
JiF Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 0	Get it done. Start cleaning house. Anyone with any value...send them packing.

02-23-2008, 10:34 AM	#14
Savage69 Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 39,368	[QUOTE=HessStation;2383306]We lose Coles we better find a replacement fast!!! And I'm not talking via draft.[/QUOTE] Yes we need a replacement but I think Cotchery is a equal talent to Coles and is younger and healthier football wise..

02-23-2008, 10:36 AM	#15
bman All League Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,941	I hate when fans just want to pile up picks! Picks mean nothing. The draft is a crap shoot. You hope that 4 or 5 guys from the draft even make the team. If they are trading coles for a pick, they better be bringing in Chad Johnson. Coles when healthy will give you 80 catches, 900 yards, 8 td's and he'll play hurt...Can you guarantee that production from a rookie....I doubt it.

02-23-2008, 10:42 AM	#17
Bullitt245 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Englewood Cliffs Posts: 4,674	I'm torn on this. Coles is a great receiver and has always been a gamer. You can tell he was continually banged up and played right on through it. However, who knows when one of those hits is going to sit him up for an entire season? If we can get a second rounder in return I think you pull the trigger. This team is still being built for the future and will need playmakers for years to come, not playmakers of the past.

02-23-2008, 10:42 AM	#18
JMJ Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Reality Posts: 10,443	[QUOTE=HessStation;2383306]We lose Coles we better find a replacement fast!!! And I'm not talking via draft.[/QUOTE] Exactly. If we sign another capable #1 (or really good WR) I would be happy as all hell to trade Coles for a 2nd or 3rd draft pick. However, if we did this move without already having another WR on the roster, and not knowing who exactly will be available to us in the draft and know we might not actually get they guy we're targeting it could be a disaster. While Leon is our best playmaker, I firmly believe Coles is still our best offensive weapon. The guy runs super-crisp routes, gets open, and makes tough catches every single week.

02-23-2008, 10:44 AM	#20
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,116	The Jets would have to at a bare minimum get a 2nd rounder or it is not worth it. As it is the Jets need at least two WR's in addition to Coles and Cotchery. Coles is a quality WR who plays hurt and plays at a high level. We'd just be creating yet another hole on the team that we may or may not be able to fill properly via the draft.