Enjoy it Dems, you just elected the least qualified president in American history

XingDaorong · 11-04-2008, 01:41 PM

You won today. You will have your Democratic Congress and President to gloat over for the next few weeks or so, your "countdown to January 20th" signatures at the ready, you'll have your revenge for 2004 when your Republican coworkers and friends busted your balls everyday over Kerry's concession speech, and you'll have your change. You will be able to somewhat disingenuously say that you were a part of history, that you made a difference, and that your candidate will make a difference for the better of this country. After all it was never about what he stood for, what he did, who he was, or why he was running after 150 unaccomplished days in the Senate; it was about winning and sticking it to an outgoing President who has been blamed for everything from the current economic crisis to the World Trade Center attacks. It wasn't about substance, it was about theatrics, looks, college degrees, styrofoam Greek columns, and calling anyone who disagreed with you an ignorant redneck. I guess this is just retribution for all of the tired insults you took over the past eight years for not supporting Bush, but then again now it's your turn so who cares about what your candidate can do or has done?

You wanted Obama? Great, you got Obama. And with Obama you got a man who has most likely accomplished less than the candidates who are running for mayor in your hometown this election, someone who used his election to the Senate as a launching pad for higher office, rather than as a mandate by his constituents to serve the community who elected him. You have a man whose sole "qualification" to be president rests on the fact that he can speak well, that he went to Harvard, and that he is black; a candidate whose knowledge of economics extends only as far as "social justice" is concerned and a candidate who was prepared to lose the war in Iraq in 2006 when it was a popular idea. But never mind that, McBush lost and you made Republicans mad, it's not about making this country better, if you wanted that you could have voted for Bill Richardson in your party's primary. It was about winning the battle to have someone with a different color of skin pigment become president before the Republicans did, regardless of qualification, ideology, or affiliation and Obama wrote two books and spoke at the DNC convention so therefore you went with him, rather than an accomplished governor with a real legacy of change.

You wanted bipartisanship? Unity among Republicans and Democrats, rich and poor, black and white, young and old? Well then congratulations, you just elected a candidate who is as partisan to the left as John Ashcroft was to the right. Someone who has never worked across the aisle for any bill with political baggage attached to it, against a candidate who is hated by his own party for siding with yours. McCain voted to confirm Ginsburg and Breyer to the Supreme Court, passed the McCain-Feingold bill with vitriolic GOP opposition, worked with Democrats on anti-smoking laws against his own party, ran against Bush in 2000 and was his main Republican critic throughout his term in office, who publicly called for Rumsfeld's resignation in the last election, who sponsored an unsuccessful bill to cap carbon emissions with Democrats, and who sponsored the McCain-Kennedy bill on immigration reform which made him the punching bag of conservative talk radio well into this election. Somehow you managed to turn this otherwise honorable and open minded senator into an old, decrepit, thoughtless stooge of the Republican Party, you valued words over actions and took Obama's claim that McCain is the same as Bush at face value. This isn't to say that McCain is a good candidate, just to remind you guys as to how full of sh*t you are when you say you are for bipartisanship and change.

But again, it wasn't about the issues, it was about winning, and what could be more important than that? Now you guys can brag about how Obama is a "breath of fresh air after eight years of hell" around the water cooler/student's lounge and how you made a difference by voting, something which ranks somewhere between spelling your name and tying your shoes in the grand list of human accomplishments. Now you have a candidate who will withdraw the troops from Iraq without so much as a second thought of the consequences, who will meet unconditionally with every tyrant hell bent on militarily or politically defeating the West, who will enact New Deal era policies in a time of economic contraction, who will tax the public for a "global poverty initiative", who will spend hundreds of billions more on failing over-funded public schools, government housing, "promise neighborhoods", "green" jobs, and in subsidies for failing corporations like GM simply to support already enriched labor unions.

Savor the victory, I know I did in 2004 when Kerry's concession speech was broadcast in the diner my liberal friend (and Kerry campaign organizer) and I were in. Just remember that this wasn't change [B]we[/B] believed in, it is change [B]you[/B] believed in. The ball is in your court now, and if Barack Obama cannot deliver then you won't have big bad Bush to hang the blame on.

NDubz · 11-04-2008, 01:44 PM

Sour grapes? Get over it.

wellingtonfljet73 · 11-04-2008, 01:46 PM

Is it too early to call for the Waaaaahmbulance?

Tyler Durden · 11-04-2008, 01:46 PM

First of all, can we wait till the votes are counted, second of all...

:bigcry::bigcry:

nuu faaola · 11-04-2008, 01:47 PM

I'd like to come up with a funny response to this, but its hard to parody a parody.

shakin318 · 11-04-2008, 01:50 PM

[QUOTE=player1322;2841520]Sour grapes? Get over it.[/QUOTE]

Great comeback. It roughly equates to the substance of your candidate.

XingDaorong · 11-04-2008, 01:50 PM

[QUOTE]Sour grapes? Get over it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]First of all, can we wait till the votes are counted, second of all...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Is it too early to call for the Waaaaahmbulance?[/QUOTE]

I'm not bitter, I just wanted to see if liberals would actually go through the process of defending their candidate, and I guess I was right in that they can't. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]I'd like to come up with a funny response to this, but its hard to parody a parody.[/QUOTE]

You could always, you know, make a response that requires more than a pulse and a keyboard?

CTM · 11-04-2008, 01:52 PM

Ohh, don't you worry your pretty little head. You guys will get your chance to take back this honor in 2012 when Palin is at the top of the ticket...

XingDaorong · 11-04-2008, 01:54 PM

[QUOTE=CTM;2841537]Ohh, don't you worry your pretty little head. You guys will get your chance to take back this honor in 2012 when Palin is at the top of the ticket...[/QUOTE]

Please don't make that prediction CTM, I'd like to hold out hope that we have a chance. :yes:

shakin318 · 11-04-2008, 01:54 PM

[QUOTE=XingDaorong;2841534]I'm not bitter, I just wanted to see if liberals would actually go through the process of defending their candidate, and I guess I was right in that they can't. :rolleyes:

You could always, you know, make a response that requires more than a pulse and a keyboard?[/QUOTE]

Never going to happen. Every single "man in the street" interview that asked Obama supporters what SPECIFIC policy or platform of his they liked about him elicited a blank stare followed by a quasi-sentence build around the word "change."

If Obama wins, he won a pageant, and nothing more.

CTM · 11-04-2008, 01:55 PM

[QUOTE=XingDaorong;2841543]Please don't make that prediction CTM, I'd like to hold out hope that we have a chance. :yes:[/QUOTE]

Me too... The Palinization of this party is quite disturbing..

I can't vote because of it...

CTM · 11-04-2008, 01:56 PM

[QUOTE=shakin318;2841544]Never going to happen. Every single "man in the street" interview that asked Obama supporters what SPECIFIC policy or platform of his they liked about him elicited a blank stare followed by a quasi-sentence build around the word "change."

If Obama wins, he won a pageant, and nothing more.[/QUOTE]

This is true. But no different then folks at a yee-haw Palin rally in real america.

The problem here is ignorance.

parafly · 11-04-2008, 01:58 PM

[QUOTE=XingDaorong;2841534]I'm not bitter, I just wanted to see if liberals would actually go through the process of defending their candidate, and I guess I was right in that they can't. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Your talking points have been debunked ad nauseum over the past few months. This isn't the time for liberals to play defense, it's time for the neocons to concede and get on board.

RIJetFan · 11-04-2008, 01:59 PM

It ain't just dems.

Timmy® · 11-04-2008, 02:01 PM

[QUOTE=XingDaorong;2841514]The ball is in your court now, and if Barack Obama cannot deliver then you won't have big bad Bush to hang the blame on.[/QUOTE]

There's always France

isired · 11-04-2008, 02:05 PM

i have to disagree with your initial premise - W was by far the least qualified president in history. experience, or more accurately, 'doing the time', does not equal qualification. when you get older, and are in a position to hire people, you'll learn this all too quickly.

XingDaorong · 11-04-2008, 02:05 PM

[QUOTE=shakin318;2841544]Never going to happen. Every single "man in the street" interview that asked Obama supporters what SPECIFIC policy or platform of his they liked about him elicited a blank stare followed by a quasi-sentence build around the word "change."

If Obama wins, he won a pageant, and nothing more.[/QUOTE]

Unbelievable, anyone could have won this election if they professed enough Bush hate. I guess that describes the intellectual vacancy of these responses, because nobody is rebutting anything I said, proving my point that it was just about winning.

XingDaorong · 11-04-2008, 02:06 PM

[QUOTE=parafly;2841552]Your talking points have been debunked ad nauseum over the past few months. This isn't the time for liberals to play defense, it's time for the neocons to concede and get on board.[/QUOTE]

Then debunk them parafly, I'm sure you can copy and paste all of these "debunkings" if they've been said "ad nauseum".

XingDaorong · 11-04-2008, 02:07 PM

[QUOTE=Timmy-y-y-y;2841559]There's always France[/QUOTE]

Or homosexuals, the illuminati, jews, young people, rap music, and global warming? Did I miss anything? :rolleyes:

XingDaorong · 11-04-2008, 02:08 PM

[QUOTE=CTM;2841548]Me too... The Palinization of this party is quite disturbing..

I can't vote because of it...[/QUOTE]

I'm going to be the first one here to support the Jindal/Petreaus ticket for 2012. :yes:

11-04-2008, 01:41 PM	#1
XingDaorong going to be banned for DWC2! All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,970	Enjoy it Dems, you just elected the least qualified president in American history You won today. You will have your Democratic Congress and President to gloat over for the next few weeks or so, your "countdown to January 20th" signatures at the ready, you'll have your revenge for 2004 when your Republican coworkers and friends busted your balls everyday over Kerry's concession speech, and you'll have your change. You will be able to somewhat disingenuously say that you were a part of history, that you made a difference, and that your candidate will make a difference for the better of this country. After all it was never about what he stood for, what he did, who he was, or why he was running after 150 unaccomplished days in the Senate; it was about winning and sticking it to an outgoing President who has been blamed for everything from the current economic crisis to the World Trade Center attacks. It wasn't about substance, it was about theatrics, looks, college degrees, styrofoam Greek columns, and calling anyone who disagreed with you an ignorant redneck. I guess this is just retribution for all of the tired insults you took over the past eight years for not supporting Bush, but then again now it's your turn so who cares about what your candidate can do or has done? You wanted Obama? Great, you got Obama. And with Obama you got a man who has most likely accomplished less than the candidates who are running for mayor in your hometown this election, someone who used his election to the Senate as a launching pad for higher office, rather than as a mandate by his constituents to serve the community who elected him. You have a man whose sole "qualification" to be president rests on the fact that he can speak well, that he went to Harvard, and that he is black; a candidate whose knowledge of economics extends only as far as "social justice" is concerned and a candidate who was prepared to lose the war in Iraq in 2006 when it was a popular idea. But never mind that, McBush lost and you made Republicans mad, it's not about making this country better, if you wanted that you could have voted for Bill Richardson in your party's primary. It was about winning the battle to have someone with a different color of skin pigment become president before the Republicans did, regardless of qualification, ideology, or affiliation and Obama wrote two books and spoke at the DNC convention so therefore you went with him, rather than an accomplished governor with a real legacy of change. You wanted bipartisanship? Unity among Republicans and Democrats, rich and poor, black and white, young and old? Well then congratulations, you just elected a candidate who is as partisan to the left as John Ashcroft was to the right. Someone who has never worked across the aisle for any bill with political baggage attached to it, against a candidate who is hated by his own party for siding with yours. McCain voted to confirm Ginsburg and Breyer to the Supreme Court, passed the McCain-Feingold bill with vitriolic GOP opposition, worked with Democrats on anti-smoking laws against his own party, ran against Bush in 2000 and was his main Republican critic throughout his term in office, who publicly called for Rumsfeld's resignation in the last election, who sponsored an unsuccessful bill to cap carbon emissions with Democrats, and who sponsored the McCain-Kennedy bill on immigration reform which made him the punching bag of conservative talk radio well into this election. Somehow you managed to turn this otherwise honorable and open minded senator into an old, decrepit, thoughtless stooge of the Republican Party, you valued words over actions and took Obama's claim that McCain is the same as Bush at face value. This isn't to say that McCain is a good candidate, just to remind you guys as to how full of sht you are when you say you are for bipartisanship and change. But again, it wasn't about the issues, it was about winning, and what could be more important than that? Now you guys can brag about how Obama is a "breath of fresh air after eight years of hell" around the water cooler/student's lounge and how you made a difference by voting, something which ranks somewhere between spelling your name and tying your shoes in the grand list of human accomplishments. Now you have a candidate who will withdraw the troops from Iraq without so much as a second thought of the consequences, who will meet unconditionally with every tyrant hell bent on militarily or politically defeating the West, who will enact New Deal era policies in a time of economic contraction, who will tax the public for a "global poverty initiative", who will spend hundreds of billions more on failing over-funded public schools, government housing, "promise neighborhoods", "green" jobs, and in subsidies for failing corporations like GM simply to support already enriched labor unions. Savor the victory, I know I did in 2004 when Kerry's concession speech was broadcast in the diner my liberal friend (and Kerry campaign organizer) and I were in. Just remember that this wasn't change [B]we[/B] believed in, it is change [B]you[/B] believed in. The ball is in your court now, and if Barack Obama cannot deliver then you won't have big bad Bush to hang the blame on. 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11-04-2008, 01:44 PM	#2
NDubz Keeping Hope... Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Long Island Posts: 2,207	Sour grapes? Get over it.

11-04-2008, 01:46 PM	#3
wellingtonfljet73 feeling something special about this Jets Team! All League Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Wellington, FL Posts: 829	Is it too early to call for the Waaaaahmbulance?

11-04-2008, 01:46 PM	#4
Tyler Durden Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 31,171	First of all, can we wait till the votes are counted, second of all... :bigcry::bigcry:

11-04-2008, 01:47 PM	#5
nuu faaola All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,253	I'd like to come up with a funny response to this, but its hard to parody a parody.

11-04-2008, 01:50 PM	#6
shakin318 Beslubbering beef-witted lout Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Funkytown Posts: 7,174	[QUOTE=player1322;2841520]Sour grapes? Get over it.[/QUOTE] Great comeback. It roughly equates to the substance of your candidate.

11-04-2008, 01:52 PM	#8
CTM Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Not bababooey and I resent the implication Posts: 21,029	Ohh, don't you worry your pretty little head. You guys will get your chance to take back this honor in 2012 when Palin is at the top of the ticket...

11-04-2008, 01:54 PM	#9
XingDaorong going to be banned for DWC2! All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,970	[QUOTE=CTM;2841537]Ohh, don't you worry your pretty little head. You guys will get your chance to take back this honor in 2012 when Palin is at the top of the ticket...[/QUOTE] Please don't make that prediction CTM, I'd like to hold out hope that we have a chance. :yes:

11-04-2008, 01:55 PM	#11
CTM Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Not bababooey and I resent the implication Posts: 21,029	[QUOTE=XingDaorong;2841543]Please don't make that prediction CTM, I'd like to hold out hope that we have a chance. :yes:[/QUOTE] Me too... The Palinization of this party is quite disturbing.. I can't vote because of it...

11-04-2008, 01:56 PM	#12
CTM Hall Of Fame Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Not bababooey and I resent the implication Posts: 21,029	[QUOTE=shakin318;2841544]Never going to happen. Every single "man in the street" interview that asked Obama supporters what SPECIFIC policy or platform of his they liked about him elicited a blank stare followed by a quasi-sentence build around the word "change." If Obama wins, he won a pageant, and nothing more.[/QUOTE] This is true. But no different then folks at a yee-haw Palin rally in real america. The problem here is ignorance.

11-04-2008, 01:58 PM	#13
parafly so why side with anything? All Pro Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,280	[QUOTE=XingDaorong;2841534]I'm not bitter, I just wanted to see if liberals would actually go through the process of defending their candidate, and I guess I was right in that they can't. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] Your talking points have been debunked ad nauseum over the past few months. This isn't the time for liberals to play defense, it's time for the neocons to concede and get on board.

11-04-2008, 01:59 PM	#14
RIJetFan All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5,879	It ain't just dems.

11-04-2008, 02:01 PM	#15
Timmy® JI's own Reverend Jim. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Vermont Posts: 23,469	[QUOTE=XingDaorong;2841514]The ball is in your court now, and if Barack Obama cannot deliver then you won't have big bad Bush to hang the blame on.[/QUOTE] There's always France

11-04-2008, 02:05 PM	#16
isired Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: nyc Posts: 11,155	i have to disagree with your initial premise - W was by far the least qualified president in history. experience, or more accurately, 'doing the time', does not equal qualification. when you get older, and are in a position to hire people, you'll learn this all too quickly.

11-04-2008, 02:06 PM	#18
XingDaorong going to be banned for DWC2! All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,970	[QUOTE=parafly;2841552]Your talking points have been debunked ad nauseum over the past few months. This isn't the time for liberals to play defense, it's time for the neocons to concede and get on board.[/QUOTE] Then debunk them parafly, I'm sure you can copy and paste all of these "debunkings" if they've been said "ad nauseum".

11-04-2008, 02:07 PM	#19
XingDaorong going to be banned for DWC2! All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,970	[QUOTE=Timmy-y-y-y;2841559]There's always France[/QUOTE] Or homosexuals, the illuminati, jews, young people, rap music, and global warming? Did I miss anything? :rolleyes:

11-04-2008, 02:08 PM	#20
XingDaorong going to be banned for DWC2! All League Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,970	[QUOTE=CTM;2841548]Me too... The Palinization of this party is quite disturbing.. I can't vote because of it...[/QUOTE] I'm going to be the first one here to support the Jindal/Petreaus ticket for 2012. :yes: