We Need to Address the Defensive Line

jmoss10686 · 03-15-2010, 12:30 PM

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I read this article this morning and I'm not a huge fan of Odrick but I would really like Corey Wootton as an alternative in the second round. We definitely need a young defensive end. Also, I don't know a lot about Emmanuel Sanders but like what I read and think he could be a good slot receiver.

Revi$_I$l@nd · 03-15-2010, 12:33 PM

Should we address them as sir?

:i_dont_kn

EM31 · 03-15-2010, 12:35 PM

[QUOTE=Revi$_I$l@nd;3526775]Should we address them as sir?

:i_dont_kn[/QUOTE]
Unless it is Vernon Gholston in which case the proper term of address would be "miss"

bitonti · 03-15-2010, 12:37 PM

i think all this DL talk is over blown. there are other worse needs.

PaPZ187 · 03-15-2010, 01:04 PM

Personally I would like to see the Jets draft a DL but not in the 1st round.

Much rather see them go after a pass rushing OLB or FS in round 1 then address the need for DL and OL depth later in the draft.

jetster · 03-15-2010, 01:12 PM

Jets still need to upgrade the secondary to shut down, Brady, Manning, Flacco & Rivers.
Can't have enough good nickel & Dime guys that know their role on the team.

McCourty will be a Jet.
Personally, I'm hoping Jay Feely gets signed & the Jets can sign Sharper to a two year contract.
A guy like Sharper with Revis & Cro shutting down the corners would be really fun to watch. Rhodes had no anticipation, Sharper is all anticipation.

Friend of mine, an avid Pats fan said, "I hope you don't end up getting Sharper and adding him to that cast of characters you already have on defense".
Our defense would be SICK!
Tanny could go all out looking for pass rushers in the this draft!

jeT.MAC · 03-15-2010, 01:17 PM

[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3526850]Personally I would like to see the Jets draft a DL but not in the 1st round.

Much rather see them go after a pass rushing OLB or FS in round 1 then address the need for DL and OL depth later in the draft.[/QUOTE]

There is no way the jets draft a Safety early. They replaced Rhodes already with Pool. imo!!!! I can see the jets taking a CB bf a S. Nickleback is a MUST right now. I would like a DL pick though.

jetsfaneh · 03-15-2010, 01:18 PM

A wise man once said:

"Ellis not here after 2010, Marques Douglas is gone. Need interior pass rush."

palmetto defender · 03-15-2010, 01:23 PM

[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3526850]Personally I would like to see the Jets draft a DL but not in the 1st round.

Much rather see them go after a pass rushing OLB or FS in round 1 then address the need for DL and OL depth later in the draft.[/QUOTE]

I still think DE in the first is the way to go based on the ages of the current starters. I would not kill myself with an OLB though. Point: the Jets were #18 in sacks last year - average. In the playoffs, they were #1. It was a new group last year - 4 new starters. It may have taken awhile to put it all together.
Forget S until later. Same with CB. Pick up a slot later (rd 4?)
As far as OL - hate to say it, but the Jets have a terrible track record of drafting lower round OL. They NEVER pan out.

palmetto defender · 03-15-2010, 01:38 PM

[QUOTE=jmoss10686;3526770][url]http://www.pressboxonline.com/blog.cfm?ID=2096[/url]

I read this article this morning and I'm not a huge fan of Odrick but I would really like Corey Wootton as an alternative in the second round. We definitely need a young defensive end. Also, I don't know a lot about Emmanuel Sanders but like what I read and think he could be a good slot receiver.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, forgot to comment on Sanders.
The guys numbers are ok, but looks like he's an UDFA maybe. Very low on boards. Like in the 40s for a rank.
Look more at Andre Roberts, Jacoby Ford, Jordan Shipley.

Ven0m · 03-15-2010, 01:48 PM

Honestly, I want Devito to become that starter in Douglas's place.....

Either welcome Douglas back as a backup, or maybe Rex really likes someone like Pitoitua as a backup, or a mid round draft pick. But I don't really foresee spending a high pick there this year. There are just bigger needs.

Monsterxman · 03-15-2010, 04:12 PM

Jenkins will be back, so we have more options him with Pouha...

Also Ellis is still around and coming off an excellent year and Pito/Devito stepped up big time and are young, talented and ready for more reps.

The Jets have done a nice job developing late/undraftted guys at DE and probably will be able to find similiar gems this year...

so with that said, I really still think CB is the way they will go... McCourty will be the pick imo.

sameoldjets · 03-15-2010, 04:57 PM

i think you draft the corners higher than the safeties because the corner can always be turned into a safety but the other way doesn't work so well.

SenorGato · 03-15-2010, 05:08 PM

Still hoping for Cody...We need someone to build our post-Jenkins DL around, and a massive mofo like that would probably work.

jmoss10686 · 03-16-2010, 11:33 PM

[QUOTE=SenorGato;3527328]Still hoping for Cody...We need someone to build our post-Jenkins DL around, and a massive mofo like that would probably work.[/QUOTE]

True, but Pouha was more than decent filling in for Jenkins last year, although he's over 30 too

FijiJet · 03-17-2010, 12:03 AM

[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3526850]Personally I would like to see the Jets draft a DL but not in the 1st round.

Much rather see them go after a [B]pass rushing OLB or FS in round 1[/B] then address the need for DL and OL depth later in the draft.[/QUOTE]

Yep, would love it if we picked up Kindle (not sure if he lasts till 29 though)or Hughes/Graham/Ricky Sapp and kick VGhol to DE. We need a demon rusher to kill qb's consistently

SenorGato · 03-17-2010, 12:21 AM

[QUOTE=jmoss10686;3529333]True, but Pouha was more than decent filling in for Jenkins last year, although he's over 30 too[/QUOTE]

Pouha's a solid backup NT with a long injury history.

Also, I think our pass rush is on the roster in the form of Pace and the young guys Gholston and Westerman. Pass rush isn't an individual in these Ds, and that's why they work.

ThePenguin · 03-17-2010, 12:34 AM

I think Safety is more of a need then DE in the first round. We dont have that ball hawk that Ryan wants. I would personally love to have Earl Thomas or Taylor Mays. We could use a slot WR and to fill that hole i would pick Jordan Shipley in the 4th if hes there still. I'm a real believer in Devito and Pit. I feel that Devito will become the starter opposite of Ellis with pit mext inm line to take over for ellis when he leaves. I also think Westerman will be our key pass rusher when this Gholston experiment officially ends.

vinluvr · 03-17-2010, 11:41 AM

The team needs to generate a better pass rush out of the base defense. The only pressure we get on the QB now is from the blitz. With Jenks back that will improve, but we need to improve pressure from the DE spot as well as from the OLB position. I could see Rex taking the best edge-rushing 3-4 DE available in the 1st (Griffen if he falls, or possibly Dunlap) or the best OLB (Kindle or maybe Hughes). Then in the 2nd look at whichever position they didn't draft in the 1st. They could still find their slot WR in the 4th, and a dime CB in the 5th. Having cut both Lito and Strick, they will need to find a CB somewhere.

jmoss10686 · 03-20-2010, 02:01 AM

[QUOTE=ThePenguin;3529375]I think Safety is more of a need then DE in the first round. We dont have that ball hawk that Ryan wants. I would personally love to have Earl Thomas or Taylor Mays.[/QUOTE]

I actually like the Brodney Pool pickup and I'm not a fan of Taylor Mays at all. I think he's bound for outside linebacker in the NFL. He's horrible in coverage.

03-15-2010, 12:30 PM	#1
jmoss10686 Waterboy Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 9	We Need to Address the Defensive Line [url]http://www.pressboxonline.com/blog.cfm?ID=2096[/url] I read this article this morning and I'm not a huge fan of Odrick but I would really like Corey Wootton as an alternative in the second round. We definitely need a young defensive end. Also, I don't know a lot about Emmanuel Sanders but like what I read and think he could be a good slot receiver.

03-15-2010, 12:33 PM	#2
Revi$_I$l@nd is Cro-ing H.A.M...Whatever that means Banned Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,489	Should we address them as sir? :i_dont_kn

03-15-2010, 12:35 PM	#3
EM31 All Pro Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oceanside, Long Island Posts: 9,302	[QUOTE=Revi$_I$l@nd;3526775]Should we address them as sir? :i_dont_kn[/QUOTE] Unless it is Vernon Gholston in which case the proper term of address would be "miss"

03-15-2010, 12:37 PM	#4
bitonti searching Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Philly Posts: 38,786	i think all this DL talk is over blown. there are other worse needs.

03-15-2010, 01:04 PM	#5
PaPZ187 NO paper bag over my face...still GREEN and WHITE till I die! All League Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lawrence, MA Posts: 3,086	Personally I would like to see the Jets draft a DL but not in the 1st round. Much rather see them go after a pass rushing OLB or FS in round 1 then address the need for DL and OL depth later in the draft.

03-15-2010, 01:12 PM	#6
jetster All League Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,957	Jets still need to upgrade the secondary to shut down, Brady, Manning, Flacco & Rivers. Can't have enough good nickel & Dime guys that know their role on the team. McCourty will be a Jet. Personally, I'm hoping Jay Feely gets signed & the Jets can sign Sharper to a two year contract. A guy like Sharper with Revis & Cro shutting down the corners would be really fun to watch. Rhodes had no anticipation, Sharper is all anticipation. Friend of mine, an avid Pats fan said, "I hope you don't end up getting Sharper and adding him to that cast of characters you already have on defense". Our defense would be SICK! Tanny could go all out looking for pass rushers in the this draft!

03-15-2010, 01:17 PM	#7
jeT.MAC All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,537	[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3526850]Personally I would like to see the Jets draft a DL but not in the 1st round. Much rather see them go after a pass rushing OLB or FS in round 1 then address the need for DL and OL depth later in the draft.[/QUOTE] There is no way the jets draft a Safety early. They replaced Rhodes already with Pool. imo!!!! I can see the jets taking a CB bf a S. Nickleback is a MUST right now. I would like a DL pick though.

03-15-2010, 01:18 PM	#8
jetsfaneh un chien andalusia All League Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 764	A wise man once said: "Ellis not here after 2010, Marques Douglas is gone. Need interior pass rush."

03-15-2010, 01:23 PM	#9
palmetto defender All League Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,850	[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3526850]Personally I would like to see the Jets draft a DL but not in the 1st round. Much rather see them go after a pass rushing OLB or FS in round 1 then address the need for DL and OL depth later in the draft.[/QUOTE] I still think DE in the first is the way to go based on the ages of the current starters. I would not kill myself with an OLB though. Point: the Jets were #18 in sacks last year - average. In the playoffs, they were #1. It was a new group last year - 4 new starters. It may have taken awhile to put it all together. Forget S until later. Same with CB. Pick up a slot later (rd 4?) As far as OL - hate to say it, but the Jets have a terrible track record of drafting lower round OL. They NEVER pan out.

03-15-2010, 01:38 PM	#10
palmetto defender All League Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4,850	[QUOTE=jmoss10686;3526770][url]http://www.pressboxonline.com/blog.cfm?ID=2096[/url] I read this article this morning and I'm not a huge fan of Odrick but I would really like Corey Wootton as an alternative in the second round. We definitely need a young defensive end. Also, I don't know a lot about Emmanuel Sanders but like what I read and think he could be a good slot receiver.[/QUOTE] Sorry, forgot to comment on Sanders. The guys numbers are ok, but looks like he's an UDFA maybe. Very low on boards. Like in the 40s for a rank. Look more at Andre Roberts, Jacoby Ford, Jordan Shipley.

03-15-2010, 01:48 PM	#11
Ven0m a shutdown poster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 18,349	Honestly, I want Devito to become that starter in Douglas's place..... Either welcome Douglas back as a backup, or maybe Rex really likes someone like Pitoitua as a backup, or a mid round draft pick. But I don't really foresee spending a high pick there this year. There are just bigger needs.

03-15-2010, 04:12 PM	#12
Monsterxman supercalifragilisticexpialidocious All League Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,075	Jenkins will be back, so we have more options him with Pouha... Also Ellis is still around and coming off an excellent year and Pito/Devito stepped up big time and are young, talented and ready for more reps. The Jets have done a nice job developing late/undraftted guys at DE and probably will be able to find similiar gems this year... so with that said, I really still think CB is the way they will go... McCourty will be the pick imo.

03-15-2010, 04:57 PM	#13
sameoldjets All Pro Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,497	i think you draft the corners higher than the safeties because the corner can always be turned into a safety but the other way doesn't work so well.

03-15-2010, 05:08 PM	#14
SenorGato still a little buzzed. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,281	Still hoping for Cody...We need someone to build our post-Jenkins DL around, and a massive mofo like that would probably work.

03-16-2010, 11:33 PM	#15
jmoss10686 Waterboy Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 9	[QUOTE=SenorGato;3527328]Still hoping for Cody...We need someone to build our post-Jenkins DL around, and a massive mofo like that would probably work.[/QUOTE] True, but Pouha was more than decent filling in for Jenkins last year, although he's over 30 too

03-17-2010, 12:03 AM	#16
FijiJet waiting for our pass rush thunderbolt All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,515	[QUOTE=PaPZ187;3526850]Personally I would like to see the Jets draft a DL but not in the 1st round. Much rather see them go after a [B]pass rushing OLB or FS in round 1[/B] then address the need for DL and OL depth later in the draft.[/QUOTE] Yep, would love it if we picked up Kindle (not sure if he lasts till 29 though)or Hughes/Graham/Ricky Sapp and kick VGhol to DE. We need a demon rusher to kill qb's consistently

03-17-2010, 12:21 AM	#17
SenorGato still a little buzzed. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 8,281	[QUOTE=jmoss10686;3529333]True, but Pouha was more than decent filling in for Jenkins last year, although he's over 30 too[/QUOTE] Pouha's a solid backup NT with a long injury history. Also, I think our pass rush is on the roster in the form of Pace and the young guys Gholston and Westerman. Pass rush isn't an individual in these Ds, and that's why they work.

03-17-2010, 12:34 AM	#18
ThePenguin Veteran Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lindenhurst NY Posts: 1,916	I think Safety is more of a need then DE in the first round. We dont have that ball hawk that Ryan wants. I would personally love to have Earl Thomas or Taylor Mays. We could use a slot WR and to fill that hole i would pick Jordan Shipley in the 4th if hes there still. I'm a real believer in Devito and Pit. I feel that Devito will become the starter opposite of Ellis with pit mext inm line to take over for ellis when he leaves. I also think Westerman will be our key pass rusher when this Gholston experiment officially ends.

03-17-2010, 11:41 AM	#19
vinluvr basking in the warm glow of ground 'n pound. Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 471	The team needs to generate a better pass rush out of the base defense. The only pressure we get on the QB now is from the blitz. With Jenks back that will improve, but we need to improve pressure from the DE spot as well as from the OLB position. I could see Rex taking the best edge-rushing 3-4 DE available in the 1st (Griffen if he falls, or possibly Dunlap) or the best OLB (Kindle or maybe Hughes). Then in the 2nd look at whichever position they didn't draft in the 1st. They could still find their slot WR in the 4th, and a dime CB in the 5th. Having cut both Lito and Strick, they will need to find a CB somewhere.

03-20-2010, 02:01 AM	#20
jmoss10686 Waterboy Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 9	[QUOTE=ThePenguin;3529375]I think Safety is more of a need then DE in the first round. We dont have that ball hawk that Ryan wants. I would personally love to have Earl Thomas or Taylor Mays.[/QUOTE] I actually like the Brodney Pool pickup and I'm not a fan of Taylor Mays at all. I think he's bound for outside linebacker in the NFL. He's horrible in coverage.