Florida Pro Day

BleedGnW · 03-17-2010, 01:12 AM

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[SIZE="5"][B]Three Topics Heading Into UF Pro Day[/B][/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]by Tom Zebold

The Florida Gator’s Pro Scout Day is Wednesday in Gainesville.[/SIZE]

Ledger reporter Rick Brown and I will be attending what should be a media frenzy. Florida has made the event free to fans. Combine them with writers and TV people and it’s going to be crazy!

Before the madness happens, let’s examine three key stories heading into the workout.

[B]1. Tim Tebow[/B] – OK, so he’ll be unveiling his new throwing motion in front of scouts. The big question will be if it makes a difference in how high he gets drafted. Many writers say no, but I certainly don’t think it can hurt. A quick release in the NFL is a very good thing and I’m very interested to see how the ball comes out of Tebow’s hand in person. Some people say he’ll go in the third of fourth round, but I say keep your eyes glued to the TV during round No. 2.

[B]2. Joe Haden[/B] – The star cornerback didn’t wow the world when he ran the 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine. He’s promised a time of under 4.4 seconds in Wednesday’s event. If he does, it could solidify his place in the top 10 of the draft.

[B]3. Maurkice Pouncey [/B]– I think this guy is a first- or second-round pick in the draft and he’s high up on Mel Kiper Jr.’s Big Board. This is just another chance for him to stay there as many teams should be taking a good look at the former Lakeland High School standout.
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And i'll be there :yes:

eaglenj · 03-17-2010, 08:50 AM

I think the biggest guys at this for us are Riley Cooper and more importantly Major Wright, although I would love to see us draft Pouncey for 2011 and beyond.

Cooper will be around late, has some size and good hands.

Wright flew under the radar on that Def but from what I read is big, fast and could be a steal in the 3rd rd area.

hendu24 · 03-17-2010, 10:05 AM

Pouncey could be a nice pick at 29, granted it would be for the future and not have much impact on this year..I love Major Wright talk about a guy that lays the wood...

Come Back to NY · 03-17-2010, 10:19 AM

wet field today...not a good thing for those who must run well (Spikes, Haden, Nelson, Cooper)....

Come Back to NY · 03-17-2010, 11:14 AM

Spikes doesn't break 5-seconds in the forty....

Beerfish · 03-17-2010, 11:15 AM

[QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3529636]Spikes doesn't break 5-seconds in the forty....[/QUOTE]

Plummet....boy did that guy ever blow it by not coming out last year.

Ven0m · 03-17-2010, 11:21 AM

[QUOTE=Beerfish;3529638]Plummet....boy did that guy ever blow it by not coming out last year.[/QUOTE]

An 40 that awful would have cost him last year as well.

Come Back to NY · 03-17-2010, 11:22 AM

[QUOTE=Ven0m;3529646]An 40 that awful would have cost him last year as well.[/QUOTE]

more than that- the guy is turning into a turd who does not want to work....

gangGREENinsider · 03-17-2010, 11:29 AM

Brandon Siler-ish

Both were between the tackles thumpers who couldn't run and thus went in the 7th round. Could be where Spikes is heading...good news is that Siler's a decent player now.

gangGREENinsider · 03-17-2010, 11:33 AM

Early report:

Spikes with a 5.00 and.a 5.01 Dunlap with a second 4.65 in 40.
Unofficial 4.42 for Haden in first run. Hernandez 4.56.
Hernandez threw up 30 reps of 225 on bench. Pouncey 25. Dunlap 22.

Scouts apparently taking .05 off the times due to the weather.

Come Back to NY · 03-17-2010, 11:44 AM

[QUOTE=gangGREENinsider;3529661]Early report:

Spikes with a 5.00 and.a 5.01 Dunlap with a second 4.65 in 40.
Unofficial 4.42 for Haden in first run. Hernandez 4.56.
Hernandez threw up 30 reps of 225 on bench. Pouncey 25. Dunlap 22.

Scouts apparently taking .05 off the times due to the weather.[/QUOTE]

i heard spikes was 5.02/5.08...they are also running up a slight grade which is part of the reason for the deduction...

david nelson stealing the show...

vinluvr · 03-17-2010, 11:46 AM

[QUOTE=gangGREENinsider;3529661]Early report:

Spikes with a 5.00 and.a 5.01 Dunlap with a second 4.65 in 40.
Unofficial 4.42 for Haden in first run. Hernandez 4.56.
Hernandez threw up 30 reps of 225 on bench. Pouncey 25. Dunlap 22.

Scouts apparently taking .05 off the times due to the weather.[/QUOTE]

That's another ridiculous number for Dunlap. Can Rex motivate him to achieve his potential? He must be salivating over Carlos' tools.

TheMikeIsHot · 03-17-2010, 12:00 PM

[QUOTE=vinluvr;3529678]That's another ridiculous number for Dunlap. Can Rex motivate him to achieve his potential? He must be salivating over Carlos' tools.[/QUOTE]

I think Dunlap is going top 20.

Paradis · 03-17-2010, 12:10 PM

^really? look at the players in the first, and try to imagine him going before guys like Williams, Thomas, Bryant, Wilson, Graham... can't see it.

vinluvr · 03-17-2010, 12:18 PM

I can see it. His raw numbers, and his production when he bothers to turn on the motor, are all top-5. What hurts him is his attitude, which needs some tweakage. Hard to say how far it will cause him to fall, but Mike is probably right. Someone will take a shot on him before we do.

TheMikeIsHot · 03-17-2010, 12:44 PM

[QUOTE=Paradis;3529702]^really? look at the players in the first, and try to imagine him going before guys like Williams, Thomas, Bryant, Wilson, Graham... can't see it.[/QUOTE]

Wilson, Graham, Williams are nice players. But they are limited in terms of upside.

Dunlap, Bryant and Demaryius are prototypes at their positions. And teams tend to take prototypes in the 1st round. If a coach can figure out a way to get through to Dunlap, to motivate him to play hard, he can be a perennial All-Pro.

That's a risk guys like Singletary and Tomlin don't mind taking. Look at Vernon Davis. He finally figured it out and he's now one of the best TEs in the game.

Beerfish · 03-17-2010, 01:02 PM

[QUOTE=Ven0m;3529646]An 40 that awful would have cost him last year as well.[/QUOTE]

He was still rated much higher before the combine or any pro day last year than this year by most accounts.

Ven0m · 03-17-2010, 01:57 PM

[QUOTE=Beerfish;3529786]He was still rated much higher before the combine or any pro day last year than this year by most accounts.[/QUOTE]

The draft process is designed to expose flaws, the same reasons he's falling now would have been discovered at some point during the draft process last year. Granted, he may have gone slightly higher last year because it was a thinner draft, but I don't think things would have played out all that much differently for him if he came out last year.

JiF · 03-17-2010, 02:08 PM

Any word on how Tebow has looked with his new mechanics? Did the rain affect him at all?

gangGREENinsider · 03-17-2010, 02:13 PM

[QUOTE=JiF;3529872]Any word on how Tebow has looked with his new mechanics? Did the rain affect him at all?[/QUOTE]

I'm hearing extremely positive stuff. But I'm going to poke around more to make sure this isn't just UF people being homers...

03-17-2010, 01:12 AM	#1
BleedGnW All League Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gainesville, FL Posts: 4,023	Florida Pro Day [url]http://collegesports.blogs.theledger.com/10570/three-questions-heading-into-uf-pro-day/[/url] [QUOTE] [SIZE="5"][B]Three Topics Heading Into UF Pro Day[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE="3"]by Tom Zebold The Florida Gator’s Pro Scout Day is Wednesday in Gainesville.[/SIZE] Ledger reporter Rick Brown and I will be attending what should be a media frenzy. Florida has made the event free to fans. Combine them with writers and TV people and it’s going to be crazy! Before the madness happens, let’s examine three key stories heading into the workout. [B]1. Tim Tebow[/B] – OK, so he’ll be unveiling his new throwing motion in front of scouts. The big question will be if it makes a difference in how high he gets drafted. Many writers say no, but I certainly don’t think it can hurt. A quick release in the NFL is a very good thing and I’m very interested to see how the ball comes out of Tebow’s hand in person. Some people say he’ll go in the third of fourth round, but I say keep your eyes glued to the TV during round No. 2. [B]2. Joe Haden[/B] – The star cornerback didn’t wow the world when he ran the 40-yard dash at the NFL Scouting Combine. He’s promised a time of under 4.4 seconds in Wednesday’s event. If he does, it could solidify his place in the top 10 of the draft. [B]3. Maurkice Pouncey [/B]– I think this guy is a first- or second-round pick in the draft and he’s high up on Mel Kiper Jr.’s Big Board. This is just another chance for him to stay there as many teams should be taking a good look at the former Lakeland High School standout. [/QUOTE] And i'll be there :yes:

03-17-2010, 08:50 AM	#2
eaglenj All League Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 3,839	I think the biggest guys at this for us are Riley Cooper and more importantly Major Wright, although I would love to see us draft Pouncey for 2011 and beyond. Cooper will be around late, has some size and good hands. Wright flew under the radar on that Def but from what I read is big, fast and could be a steal in the 3rd rd area.

03-17-2010, 10:05 AM	#3
hendu24 Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,051	Pouncey could be a nice pick at 29, granted it would be for the future and not have much impact on this year..I love Major Wright talk about a guy that lays the wood...

03-17-2010, 10:19 AM	#4
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	wet field today...not a good thing for those who must run well (Spikes, Haden, Nelson, Cooper)....

03-17-2010, 11:14 AM	#5
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	Spikes doesn't break 5-seconds in the forty....

03-17-2010, 11:15 AM	#6
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,078	[QUOTE=Come Back to NY;3529636]Spikes doesn't break 5-seconds in the forty....[/QUOTE] Plummet....boy did that guy ever blow it by not coming out last year.

03-17-2010, 11:21 AM	#7
Ven0m a shutdown poster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 18,349	[QUOTE=Beerfish;3529638]Plummet....boy did that guy ever blow it by not coming out last year.[/QUOTE] An 40 that awful would have cost him last year as well.

03-17-2010, 11:22 AM	#8
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=Ven0m;3529646]An 40 that awful would have cost him last year as well.[/QUOTE] more than that- the guy is turning into a turd who does not want to work....

03-17-2010, 11:29 AM	#9
gangGREENinsider All Pro Join Date: May 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 8,232	Brandon Siler-ish Both were between the tackles thumpers who couldn't run and thus went in the 7th round. Could be where Spikes is heading...good news is that Siler's a decent player now.

03-17-2010, 11:33 AM	#10
gangGREENinsider All Pro Join Date: May 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 8,232	Early report: Spikes with a 5.00 and.a 5.01 Dunlap with a second 4.65 in 40. Unofficial 4.42 for Haden in first run. Hernandez 4.56. Hernandez threw up 30 reps of 225 on bench. Pouncey 25. Dunlap 22. Scouts apparently taking .05 off the times due to the weather.

03-17-2010, 11:44 AM	#11
Come Back to NY Making lotsa $$$ off obama's stupidity... Jets Insider VIP JetsInsider.com Legend Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 31,407	[QUOTE=gangGREENinsider;3529661]Early report: Spikes with a 5.00 and.a 5.01 Dunlap with a second 4.65 in 40. Unofficial 4.42 for Haden in first run. Hernandez 4.56. Hernandez threw up 30 reps of 225 on bench. Pouncey 25. Dunlap 22. Scouts apparently taking .05 off the times due to the weather.[/QUOTE] i heard spikes was 5.02/5.08...they are also running up a slight grade which is part of the reason for the deduction... david nelson stealing the show...

03-17-2010, 11:46 AM	#12
vinluvr basking in the warm glow of ground 'n pound. Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 471	[QUOTE=gangGREENinsider;3529661]Early report: Spikes with a 5.00 and.a 5.01 Dunlap with a second 4.65 in 40. Unofficial 4.42 for Haden in first run. Hernandez 4.56. Hernandez threw up 30 reps of 225 on bench. Pouncey 25. Dunlap 22. Scouts apparently taking .05 off the times due to the weather.[/QUOTE] That's another ridiculous number for Dunlap. Can Rex motivate him to achieve his potential? He must be salivating over Carlos' tools.

03-17-2010, 12:00 PM	#13
TheMikeIsHot All Pro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 7,043	[QUOTE=vinluvr;3529678]That's another ridiculous number for Dunlap. Can Rex motivate him to achieve his potential? He must be salivating over Carlos' tools.[/QUOTE] I think Dunlap is going top 20.

03-17-2010, 12:10 PM	#14
Paradis Is waiting for Ryan Mallet All Pro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the 80s Posts: 7,108	^really? look at the players in the first, and try to imagine him going before guys like Williams, Thomas, Bryant, Wilson, Graham... can't see it.

03-17-2010, 12:18 PM	#15
vinluvr basking in the warm glow of ground 'n pound. Veteran Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 471	I can see it. His raw numbers, and his production when he bothers to turn on the motor, are all top-5. What hurts him is his attitude, which needs some tweakage. Hard to say how far it will cause him to fall, but Mike is probably right. Someone will take a shot on him before we do.

03-17-2010, 12:44 PM	#16
TheMikeIsHot All Pro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 7,043	[QUOTE=Paradis;3529702]^really? look at the players in the first, and try to imagine him going before guys like Williams, Thomas, Bryant, Wilson, Graham... can't see it.[/QUOTE] Wilson, Graham, Williams are nice players. But they are limited in terms of upside. Dunlap, Bryant and Demaryius are prototypes at their positions. And teams tend to take prototypes in the 1st round. If a coach can figure out a way to get through to Dunlap, to motivate him to play hard, he can be a perennial All-Pro. That's a risk guys like Singletary and Tomlin don't mind taking. Look at Vernon Davis. He finally figured it out and he's now one of the best TEs in the game.

03-17-2010, 01:02 PM	#17
Beerfish Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 19,078	[QUOTE=Ven0m;3529646]An 40 that awful would have cost him last year as well.[/QUOTE] He was still rated much higher before the combine or any pro day last year than this year by most accounts.

03-17-2010, 01:57 PM	#18
Ven0m a shutdown poster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 18,349	[QUOTE=Beerfish;3529786]He was still rated much higher before the combine or any pro day last year than this year by most accounts.[/QUOTE] The draft process is designed to expose flaws, the same reasons he's falling now would have been discovered at some point during the draft process last year. Granted, he may have gone slightly higher last year because it was a thinner draft, but I don't think things would have played out all that much differently for him if he came out last year.

03-17-2010, 02:08 PM	#19
JiF Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 0	Any word on how Tebow has looked with his new mechanics? Did the rain affect him at all?

03-17-2010, 02:13 PM	#20
gangGREENinsider All Pro Join Date: May 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 8,232	[QUOTE=JiF;3529872]Any word on how Tebow has looked with his new mechanics? Did the rain affect him at all?[/QUOTE] I'm hearing extremely positive stuff. But I'm going to poke around more to make sure this isn't just UF people being homers...