Why are there no Friday or Saturday night games?

petejet · 03-17-2010, 12:34 PM

Weekend nights would be perfect for football. No work the next day. Nothing else on TV to compete for ratings.

Paradis · 03-17-2010, 12:36 PM

C'mooon. i live in canada and even i know this. Friday you have highschool teams playing, and obviously sat college.

Ven0m · 03-17-2010, 12:36 PM

There's some kind of handshake agreement so they're not competing with the NCAA or HS football during their seasons. You usually see a couple Saturday Night games in December though after the NCAA regular season has concluded.

ljr@work · 03-17-2010, 12:36 PM

... high school & college games ...

l_j_r

superjets69 · 03-17-2010, 12:36 PM

The NFL does not compete with either High School or College FB :)

[QUOTE=petejet;3529735]Weekend nights would be perfect for football. No work the next day. Nothing else on TV to compete for ratings.[/QUOTE]

sect313 · 03-17-2010, 12:37 PM

college football is saturday and high school football on friday

Jet Nut · 03-17-2010, 12:37 PM

College & HS schedule?

petejet · 03-17-2010, 12:38 PM

[QUOTE=Paradis;3529736]C'mooon. i live in canada and even i know this. Friday you have highschool teams playing, and obviously sat college.[/QUOTE]

Ridiculous.

crasherino · 03-17-2010, 12:42 PM

I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet.....

The NFL doesn't want to compete with HS or College Football. Something about a handshake agreement.

SMC · 03-17-2010, 12:43 PM

Ratings perhaps.

Historically, the lowest rated nights of the week are Friday and Saturday.

dassin · 03-17-2010, 12:44 PM

The NFL should schedule one national game on Monday nights...its the off-season from "24" :D

sg3 · 03-17-2010, 12:47 PM

there is a good reason for this agreement.

the colleges provide a free minor development league for the NFL. Plus NFL scouts are allowed on college fields to measure, test and work out prospects for the draft.

The quid pro quo for this system is that the NFL doesn't play Friday games or Saturday games until the college regular season is concluded and the NFL has the rule about players completing 3 years of eligibility before being draft eligible which keeps players playing for free in the NCAA system

Jet Nut · 03-17-2010, 12:50 PM

What's with all the maybe's and might be's?

It's because of the college season.

Yankeejet22 · 03-17-2010, 12:51 PM

For Sexy Time... you know, for the wives and gfs. Verry Nice!

petejet · 03-17-2010, 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=Jet Nut;3529764]What's with all the maybe's and might be's?

It's because of the college season.[/QUOTE]

So its ok to fvck people over on weeknights and holidays but they cannot play a game on a Friday or Saturday night in a state where a college game might not even occur?

Jet Nut · 03-17-2010, 01:42 PM

[QUOTE=petejet;3529818]So its ok to fvck people over on weeknights and holidays but they cannot play a game on a Friday or Saturday night in a state where a college game might not even occur?[/QUOTE]

Fvck the people over? Really? You asked why and got the answer.

Whether it's right or wrong is a different question. But if you're hoping or asking for a change, forget it. Not only would it NOT work to have teams play a schedule outside of games one week apart (Wed, thurs, friday, sat & sun) but ratings prove that people don't want it.

And what does the state where colleges and pro teams are have to do with TV?

joiseyjet · 03-17-2010, 01:43 PM

[QUOTE=petejet;3529818]So its ok to fvck people over on weeknights and holidays but they cannot play a game on a Friday or Saturday night in a state where a college game might not even occur?[/QUOTE]

Thats a wife & Girlfriend thing ,you have to go to the kids games.

jetsfan_toronto_canada · 03-17-2010, 01:52 PM

[QUOTE=petejet;3529818]So its ok to fvck people over on weeknights and holidays but they cannot play a game on a Friday or Saturday night in a state where a college game might not even occur?[/QUOTE]

Agreed college and HS effect this for sure, but also its a marketing thing.

Everybody knows that the NFL games are on sunday, no need to check the schedule for dates, you play sunday or in the one game on monday night.

It may not seem like a big deal but it is, before the season NFL fans let their families and friends know sunday is off limits, sunday is a day for church/rest - nothing else happens on sundays, NFL owns sunday.

This is a huge deal, for example - I have absolutely no idea when the first CFL game will be this year, will it be thursday? Friday? Saturday? its not set on a concrete schedule like the nfl is, and no matter how you slice it, this makes the CFL games/league harder to follow.

Its an amazing approach/insight that the NFL uses and other sports have a hard time doing it because they have such long seasons... But this is a big reason why the NFL is so popular -

they own sunday.

petejet · 03-17-2010, 01:54 PM

[QUOTE=Jet Nut;3529829]Fvck the people over? Really? You asked why and got the answer.

Whether it's right or wrong is a different question. But if you're hoping or asking for a change, forget it. Not only would it NOT work to have teams play a schedule outside of games one week apart (Wed, thurs, friday, sat & sun) but ratings prove that people don't want it.

And what does the state where colleges and pro teams are have to do with TV?[/QUOTE]

Where is this ratings proof? Link please.... Put a game on and football fans will watch it. Not sure I understand your point about scheduling. I don't see how it matters what non-Sunday day a team plays on.

flgreen · 03-17-2010, 02:07 PM

[QUOTE=petejet;3529849]Where is this ratings proof? Link please.... Put a game on and football fans will watch it. Not sure I understand your point about scheduling. I don't see how it matters what non-Sunday day a team plays on.[/QUOTE]

College football is monster Nationally. NFL has no desire to compete with it. Why should they it would just be bad business.

An early season sample of the ratings

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ABC’s Saturday Night College Football game featuring the Texas Longhorns revenge match against the Texas Tech Red Raiders was more than enough to put the network atop the Saturday night TV ratings.

While it wasn’t up to the level of the season opening Alabama/Virginia Tech’s 2.4 adults 18-49 rating, the Texas/Texas Tech game’s 2.0 18-49 rating put it comfortably above the unscripted and repeat competition on the night. Fox’s reality crime duo of Cops and America’s Most Wanted was reliably in second. Not many tuned in for the repeats of the new Survivor: Samoa or Community, I’m not sure that’s particularly meaningful for either show.
Time Net Show 18-49 Rating 18-49 Share Viewers Live+SD (million)
8:00 ABC College Football (Texas v. Texas Tech) 2.0 7 6.22
FOX Cops (1 new, 1 repeat, 8-9p) 1.4 5 4.56
CBS Survivor: Samoa (repeat) 0.6 2 2.23
NBC Office (repeat) 0.6 2 1.90

8:30 NBC Community (repeat) 0.5 2 1.64

9:00 FOX America’s Most Wanted 1.7 5 5.05
NBC Law & Order (repeat) 0.8 3 3.46
CBS CSI (repeat) 0.7 2 3.26

10:00 CBS 48 Hours Mystery 1.3 5 5.15?
NBC Law & Order SVU (repeat) 1.1 4 4.28

03-17-2010, 12:34 PM	#1
petejet Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 8,217	Why are there no Friday or Saturday night games? Weekend nights would be perfect for football. No work the next day. Nothing else on TV to compete for ratings.

03-17-2010, 12:36 PM	#2
Paradis Is waiting for Ryan Mallet All Pro Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the 80s Posts: 7,108	C'mooon. i live in canada and even i know this. Friday you have highschool teams playing, and obviously sat college.

03-17-2010, 12:36 PM	#3
Ven0m a shutdown poster Hall Of Fame Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 18,349	There's some kind of handshake agreement so they're not competing with the NCAA or HS football during their seasons. You usually see a couple Saturday Night games in December though after the NCAA regular season has concluded.

03-17-2010, 12:36 PM	#4
ljr@work All Pro Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,815	... high school & college games ... l_j_r

03-17-2010, 12:36 PM	#5
superjets69 Practice Squad Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 40	The NFL does not compete with either High School or College FB :) [QUOTE=petejet;3529735]Weekend nights would be perfect for football. No work the next day. Nothing else on TV to compete for ratings.[/QUOTE]

03-17-2010, 12:37 PM	#6
sect313 Numb All League Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,622	college football is saturday and high school football on friday

03-17-2010, 12:37 PM	#7
Jet Nut Wise madness is better than foolish sanity.... Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Manalapan Posts: 11,108	College & HS schedule?

03-17-2010, 12:38 PM	#8
petejet Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 8,217	[QUOTE=Paradis;3529736]C'mooon. i live in canada and even i know this. Friday you have highschool teams playing, and obviously sat college.[/QUOTE] Ridiculous.

03-17-2010, 12:42 PM	#9
crasherino Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 16,826	I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet..... The NFL doesn't want to compete with HS or College Football. Something about a handshake agreement.

03-17-2010, 12:43 PM	#10
SMC Day-to-day Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 22,032	Ratings perhaps. Historically, the lowest rated nights of the week are Friday and Saturday.

03-17-2010, 12:44 PM	#11
dassin All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,001	The NFL should schedule one national game on Monday nights...its the off-season from "24" :D

03-17-2010, 12:47 PM	#12
sg3 REX AND THE I-MAN - BACK ON TRACK Jets Insider VIP Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: The Big Apple, USA Posts: 20,401	there is a good reason for this agreement. the colleges provide a free minor development league for the NFL. Plus NFL scouts are allowed on college fields to measure, test and work out prospects for the draft. The quid pro quo for this system is that the NFL doesn't play Friday games or Saturday games until the college regular season is concluded and the NFL has the rule about players completing 3 years of eligibility before being draft eligible which keeps players playing for free in the NCAA system

03-17-2010, 12:50 PM	#13
Jet Nut Wise madness is better than foolish sanity.... Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Manalapan Posts: 11,108	What's with all the maybe's and might be's? It's because of the college season.

03-17-2010, 12:51 PM	#14
Yankeejet22 You didn't show them, Mark :( Veteran Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: northern jersey Posts: 2,464	For Sexy Time... you know, for the wives and gfs. Verry Nice!

03-17-2010, 01:31 PM	#15
petejet Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 8,217	[QUOTE=Jet Nut;3529764]What's with all the maybe's and might be's? It's because of the college season.[/QUOTE] So its ok to fvck people over on weeknights and holidays but they cannot play a game on a Friday or Saturday night in a state where a college game might not even occur?

03-17-2010, 01:42 PM	#16
Jet Nut Wise madness is better than foolish sanity.... Hall Of Fame Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Manalapan Posts: 11,108	[QUOTE=petejet;3529818]So its ok to fvck people over on weeknights and holidays but they cannot play a game on a Friday or Saturday night in a state where a college game might not even occur?[/QUOTE] Fvck the people over? Really? You asked why and got the answer. Whether it's right or wrong is a different question. But if you're hoping or asking for a change, forget it. Not only would it NOT work to have teams play a schedule outside of games one week apart (Wed, thurs, friday, sat & sun) but ratings prove that people don't want it. And what does the state where colleges and pro teams are have to do with TV?

03-17-2010, 01:43 PM	#17
joiseyjet Hall Of Fame Founding JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Posts: 9,359	[QUOTE=petejet;3529818]So its ok to fvck people over on weeknights and holidays but they cannot play a game on a Friday or Saturday night in a state where a college game might not even occur?[/QUOTE] Thats a wife & Girlfriend thing ,you have to go to the kids games.

03-17-2010, 01:52 PM	#18
jetsfan_toronto_canada Rookie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 863	[QUOTE=petejet;3529818]So its ok to fvck people over on weeknights and holidays but they cannot play a game on a Friday or Saturday night in a state where a college game might not even occur?[/QUOTE] Agreed college and HS effect this for sure, but also its a marketing thing. Everybody knows that the NFL games are on sunday, no need to check the schedule for dates, you play sunday or in the one game on monday night. It may not seem like a big deal but it is, before the season NFL fans let their families and friends know sunday is off limits, sunday is a day for church/rest - nothing else happens on sundays, NFL owns sunday. This is a huge deal, for example - I have absolutely no idea when the first CFL game will be this year, will it be thursday? Friday? Saturday? its not set on a concrete schedule like the nfl is, and no matter how you slice it, this makes the CFL games/league harder to follow. Its an amazing approach/insight that the NFL uses and other sports have a hard time doing it because they have such long seasons... But this is a big reason why the NFL is so popular - they own sunday.

03-17-2010, 01:54 PM	#19
petejet Board Moderator Jets Insider VIP Charter JI Member Join Date: May 1999 Location: Huntington, NY Posts: 8,217	[QUOTE=Jet Nut;3529829]Fvck the people over? Really? You asked why and got the answer. Whether it's right or wrong is a different question. But if you're hoping or asking for a change, forget it. Not only would it NOT work to have teams play a schedule outside of games one week apart (Wed, thurs, friday, sat & sun) but ratings prove that people don't want it. And what does the state where colleges and pro teams are have to do with TV?[/QUOTE] Where is this ratings proof? Link please.... Put a game on and football fans will watch it. Not sure I understand your point about scheduling. I don't see how it matters what non-Sunday day a team plays on.

03-17-2010, 02:07 PM	#20
flgreen Veteran Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,045	[QUOTE=petejet;3529849]Where is this ratings proof? Link please.... Put a game on and football fans will watch it. Not sure I understand your point about scheduling. I don't see how it matters what non-Sunday day a team plays on.[/QUOTE] College football is monster Nationally. NFL has no desire to compete with it. Why should they it would just be bad business. An early season sample of the ratings s. ABC’s Saturday Night College Football game featuring the Texas Longhorns revenge match against the Texas Tech Red Raiders was more than enough to put the network atop the Saturday night TV ratings. While it wasn’t up to the level of the season opening Alabama/Virginia Tech’s 2.4 adults 18-49 rating, the Texas/Texas Tech game’s 2.0 18-49 rating put it comfortably above the unscripted and repeat competition on the night. Fox’s reality crime duo of Cops and America’s Most Wanted was reliably in second. Not many tuned in for the repeats of the new Survivor: Samoa or Community, I’m not sure that’s particularly meaningful for either show. Time Net Show 18-49 Rating 18-49 Share Viewers Live+SD (million) 8:00 ABC College Football (Texas v. Texas Tech) 2.0 7 6.22 FOX Cops (1 new, 1 repeat, 8-9p) 1.4 5 4.56 CBS Survivor: Samoa (repeat) 0.6 2 2.23 NBC Office (repeat) 0.6 2 1.90 8:30 NBC Community (repeat) 0.5 2 1.64 9:00 FOX America’s Most Wanted 1.7 5 5.05 NBC Law & Order (repeat) 0.8 3 3.46 CBS CSI (repeat) 0.7 2 3.26 10:00 CBS 48 Hours Mystery 1.3 5 5.15? NBC Law & Order SVU (repeat) 1.1 4 4.28