TE Ben Hartsock cut

Heynowguy · 03-02-2011, 06:40 PM

The Jets announced that they have waived LB Vernon Gholston and terminated the contract of TE Ben Hartsock.

The only plays I remember the guy making was offsides at a crucial time. He wasn't a bad guy, I just think not so good a player.

Slikmojet · 03-02-2011, 07:10 PM

[QUOTE=Heynowguy;3971138]The Jets announced that they have waived LB Vernon Gholston and terminated the contract of TE Ben Hartsock.

The only plays I remember the guy making was offsides at a crucial time. He wasn't a bad guy, I just think not so good a player.[/QUOTE]

Perfect example why a bad play will taint a player's career for life, people soon forget or fail to recognize the other thousand or so good plays. Hartsock was a great blocker and ok receiver, we just never used him in that fashion. Hopefully Mulligan can be his equal as a blcoker.

TurkJetFan · 03-02-2011, 07:54 PM

I've wanted him gone since buffalo at home 2009

NYJETS3233 · 03-02-2011, 08:00 PM

thank god

1. didnt catch the ball the few times it was thrown to him

2. got called for holding numerous times when he was supposed to be blocking tight end

3. got in the way of our running backs as they were about to break long runs.

David Harris · 03-02-2011, 08:06 PM

Was JAG with a not worth it cap charge.

neevsmazda07 · 03-02-2011, 08:32 PM

[QUOTE=NYJETS3233;3971205]thank god

1. didnt catch the ball the few times it was thrown to him

2. got called for holding numerous times when he was supposed to be blocking tight end

3. got in the way of our running backs as they were about to break long runs.[/QUOTE]

+1... it would be interesting what the front office does... i would lean towards the draft because of the labor situation and the simple fact that there arent alot of good free agent te's on the market right now..

Baddniss · 03-02-2011, 08:38 PM

Hartsock blows.
Stupid penalties all year long.

good bye!

Heynowguy · 03-02-2011, 08:39 PM

[QUOTE=Slikmojet;3971169]Perfect example why a bad play will taint a player's career for life, people soon forget or fail to recognize the other thousand or so good plays. Hartsock was a great blocker and ok receiver, we just never used him in that fashion. Hopefully Mulligan can be his equal as a blcoker.[/QUOTE]

One business book called those "Moments of Truth". It described it as crucial points when you need to come through for a customer. I just don't remember any "Moments of Truth" for Hartsock, just the opposite.

For example, I remember other guys blowing plays, but also remember good plays too. I only remember one good play for Harstock, a TD off a play action on the goal line. But he did that illegal motion more than once at a crucial time.

jeT.MAC · 03-02-2011, 08:49 PM

Ben is one guy with no heart and no sock in his game.. later broseph!!!

Mikey Z 6 · 03-02-2011, 08:50 PM

he really was awful in my 2 TE sets on madden

TechJet · 03-02-2011, 09:13 PM

[QUOTE=TurkJetFan;3971200]I've wanted him gone since buffalo at home 2009[/QUOTE]

Nice that makes two of us! the dude sucks!

LV2 · 03-02-2011, 09:43 PM

thank goodness is all I can say.

doggin94it · 03-02-2011, 11:02 PM

[QUOTE=David Harris;3971209]Was JAG with a not worth it cap charge.[/QUOTE]

This - an excellent blocker, but no better than an extra OT in the passing game, which is why we brought hunter in as TE2 so often - if all the guy's going to be is a glorified OT . . . bring in an actual OT.

FijiJet · 03-03-2011, 12:50 AM

[QUOTE=doggin94it;3971373]This - an excellent blocker, but no better than an extra OT in the passing game, which is why we brought hunter in as TE2 so often - if all the guy's going to be is a glorified OT . . . bring in an actual OT.[/QUOTE]

He actually was a great blocker but athletically very limited. With Sanchez developing rapidly, we need more active weapons in the passing game

TheMikeIsHot · 03-03-2011, 05:54 AM

He was, IMO, the worst 2nd TE in the entire league.

Utterly worthless and had no business getting regular playing time on a playoff team.

Any street free agent could have offered the Jets more in the passing game. He's a good blocker, but not as good as an extra OL, so what's the point in even having a guy like this?

Well, apparently, there is none. And he's finally gone.

Watch the passing game open once they have someone who is a threat to catch a pass as a 2nd TE.

OC_Jet · 03-03-2011, 08:16 AM

[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]TheMikeIsHot[/B]
Watch the passing game open once they have someone who is a threat to catch a pass as a 2nd TE.[/QUOTE]I think that is why they kept Cumberland. He is supposed to be as athletic as Keller. Hopefully he has learned to block in the past year.

Borgoguy · 03-03-2011, 09:19 AM

Hartsock is easily replaceable with a large bag of dog kibble.

Heynowguy · 03-03-2011, 09:25 AM

I feel bad for him as a person, it's not easy losing a job. He seemed like a good guy, hard working, etc., so I won't rank on him. But he just didn't seem to come through as a player, rather just the opposite.

revischrist · 03-03-2011, 09:33 AM

[QUOTE=Slikmojet;3971169] Hartsock was a great blocker and ok receiver, [/QUOTE]

He was a good blocker, but nothing in his game showed me that he was either good at getting open or that he would make a tough catch. In fact, I am pretty sure he is one of the worst pass catching TEs in the league.

And when you are a TE that comes in a couple of times a game to block, you better not make boneheaded mistakes.

Sourceworx · 03-03-2011, 09:40 AM

I wonder who Schitty will line up wide for no reason whatsoever now.

03-02-2011, 06:40 PM	#1
Heynowguy All Pro Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,170	TE Ben Hartsock cut The Jets announced that they have waived LB Vernon Gholston and terminated the contract of TE Ben Hartsock. The only plays I remember the guy making was offsides at a crucial time. He wasn't a bad guy, I just think not so good a player.

03-03-2011, 05:54 AM	#15
TheMikeIsHot All Pro Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 7,043	He was, IMO, the worst 2nd TE in the entire league. Utterly worthless and had no business getting regular playing time on a playoff team. Any street free agent could have offered the Jets more in the passing game. He's a good blocker, but not as good as an extra OL, so what's the point in even having a guy like this? Well, apparently, there is none. And he's finally gone. Watch the passing game open once they have someone who is a threat to catch a pass as a 2nd TE. Last edited by TheMikeIsHot; 03-03-2011 at 05:59 AM.

03-02-2011, 07:10 PM	#2
Slikmojet The fine feathered figaro All Pro Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 5,645	[QUOTE=Heynowguy;3971138]The Jets announced that they have waived LB Vernon Gholston and terminated the contract of TE Ben Hartsock. The only plays I remember the guy making was offsides at a crucial time. He wasn't a bad guy, I just think not so good a player.[/QUOTE] Perfect example why a bad play will taint a player's career for life, people soon forget or fail to recognize the other thousand or so good plays. Hartsock was a great blocker and ok receiver, we just never used him in that fashion. Hopefully Mulligan can be his equal as a blcoker.

03-02-2011, 07:54 PM	#3
TurkJetFan Praise Idzik All Pro Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,097	I've wanted him gone since buffalo at home 2009

03-02-2011, 08:00 PM	#4
NYJETS3233 All League Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 975	thank god 1. didnt catch the ball the few times it was thrown to him 2. got called for holding numerous times when he was supposed to be blocking tight end 3. got in the way of our running backs as they were about to break long runs.

03-02-2011, 08:06 PM	#5
David Harris All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Murray Hill Posts: 7,095	Was JAG with a not worth it cap charge.

03-02-2011, 08:32 PM	#6
neevsmazda07 jetsinsider.... pug approved!!! All League Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: cape coral fl. Posts: 2,616	[QUOTE=NYJETS3233;3971205]thank god 1. didnt catch the ball the few times it was thrown to him 2. got called for holding numerous times when he was supposed to be blocking tight end 3. got in the way of our running backs as they were about to break long runs.[/QUOTE] +1... it would be interesting what the front office does... i would lean towards the draft because of the labor situation and the simple fact that there arent alot of good free agent te's on the market right now..

03-02-2011, 08:38 PM	#7
Baddniss Hall of Fame...First Ballot Inductee...Canton,Ohio...2009 All Pro Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,492	Hartsock blows. Stupid penalties all year long. good bye!

03-02-2011, 08:39 PM	#8
Heynowguy All Pro Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,170	[QUOTE=Slikmojet;3971169]Perfect example why a bad play will taint a player's career for life, people soon forget or fail to recognize the other thousand or so good plays. Hartsock was a great blocker and ok receiver, we just never used him in that fashion. Hopefully Mulligan can be his equal as a blcoker.[/QUOTE] One business book called those "Moments of Truth". It described it as crucial points when you need to come through for a customer. I just don't remember any "Moments of Truth" for Hartsock, just the opposite. For example, I remember other guys blowing plays, but also remember good plays too. I only remember one good play for Harstock, a TD off a play action on the goal line. But he did that illegal motion more than once at a crucial time.

03-02-2011, 08:49 PM	#9
jeT.MAC All Pro Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 5,518	Ben is one guy with no heart and no sock in his game.. later broseph!!!

03-02-2011, 08:50 PM	#10
Mikey Z 6 oOoOoOo All Pro Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Posts: 5,536	he really was awful in my 2 TE sets on madden

03-02-2011, 09:13 PM	#11
TechJet Still waiting for the next Jet SB crown. Hall Of Fame Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Fr:NYC to Mid Ga. Posts: 8,548	[QUOTE=TurkJetFan;3971200]I've wanted him gone since buffalo at home 2009[/QUOTE] Nice that makes two of us! the dude sucks!

03-02-2011, 09:43 PM	#12
LV2 Rookie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 864	thank goodness is all I can say.

03-02-2011, 11:02 PM	#13
doggin94it Hall Of Fame Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 13,430	[QUOTE=David Harris;3971209]Was JAG with a not worth it cap charge.[/QUOTE] This - an excellent blocker, but no better than an extra OT in the passing game, which is why we brought hunter in as TE2 so often - if all the guy's going to be is a glorified OT . . . bring in an actual OT.

03-03-2011, 12:50 AM	#14
FijiJet waiting for our pass rush thunderbolt All League Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,439	[QUOTE=doggin94it;3971373]This - an excellent blocker, but no better than an extra OT in the passing game, which is why we brought hunter in as TE2 so often - if all the guy's going to be is a glorified OT . . . bring in an actual OT.[/QUOTE] He actually was a great blocker but athletically very limited. With Sanchez developing rapidly, we need more active weapons in the passing game

03-03-2011, 08:16 AM	#16
OC_Jet Undrafted Free Agent Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 211	[QUOTE]Originally Posted by [B]TheMikeIsHot[/B] Watch the passing game open once they have someone who is a threat to catch a pass as a 2nd TE.[/QUOTE]I think that is why they kept Cumberland. He is supposed to be as athletic as Keller. Hopefully he has learned to block in the past year.

03-03-2011, 09:19 AM	#17
Borgoguy Not one image until my posts are restored. Veteran Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,417	Hartsock is easily replaceable with a large bag of dog kibble.

03-03-2011, 09:25 AM	#18
Heynowguy All Pro Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,170	I feel bad for him as a person, it's not easy losing a job. He seemed like a good guy, hard working, etc., so I won't rank on him. But he just didn't seem to come through as a player, rather just the opposite.

03-03-2011, 09:33 AM	#19
revischrist Dee Best! Veteran Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,734	[QUOTE=Slikmojet;3971169] Hartsock was a great blocker and ok receiver, [/QUOTE] He was a good blocker, but nothing in his game showed me that he was either good at getting open or that he would make a tough catch. In fact, I am pretty sure he is one of the worst pass catching TEs in the league. And when you are a TE that comes in a couple of times a game to block, you better not make boneheaded mistakes.

03-03-2011, 09:40 AM	#20
Sourceworx Hall Of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Long Island Posts: 13,426	I wonder who Schitty will line up wide for no reason whatsoever now.